Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Ok, not a word, Andrew..........!

    Moomy

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    Hi Liz

    We've had a good day as well, in the garden with the hose and paddling pool accompanied by 2 shreaking children, the purest essence of summer!
  • We went off for a cycle ride, there are good cycle and walking tracks round the area, and it was good, maybe a bit far for me, I prefer to walk, really, but it was very good for my hubby as he rehabilitates after his back surgery.....Caz came, ate a healthy salad lunch, and went off to London again....this time by train!

    Moomy

  • But at least you don't have the up-keep, Liz!

    Moomy

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    Liz your piccie were exactly the games played by the small peeps!
    jumping the water spray, soaking everyone and splashing around in the water,

    Innocent childhood made of innocent fun for free!!!
  • Yes, that sounds all like hard work! I must admit, we have worked hard at trying to make the garden as low maintenance as possible.....

    Moomy

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    That is the down side of living in a flat and certainly in Germany, where the expectations to conform are set in stone, don't you agree Liz?
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    And I miss the place like crazy!!!!


    I fondly remember the rules, curtains have to match at the front of the house! No mix and match or crazy styles!
  • FormerMember
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    Bergedorf just outside of Hansa Stadt Hamburg!!!

    not quite in Vierlanden but verging on the area!

    Oma and I used to spend sooo much time in Aumuehle and Friedrichsruh!!
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    Yes I am familiar with Bremen area as my cousin was in the merchant navy and always sailed from Bremerhafen. Although that was over 20 yrs ago so I doubt where I would easily find my way around any more!

    When we go back we tend to head towards the Ostsee