Advanced Prostate Cancer and life expectancy (rant + sharing our approach)

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Hi everyone,

I posted a few weeks ago when we found out that my partner has metastatic prostate cancer spread to lymph nodes and bones. I received incredible responses and support. I am very thankful for that! We were shocked and a bit devastated by the news but we both got back up pretty quickly.

This is a bit of a rant; I hope it’s ok!

I am fed up with doctors and specialists who think it is right to put a time stamp on someone’s condition.

I have been a silent reader here for the past few weeks and I am horrified to read about people having been told that they have “this much left to live”.

The truth is that they absolutely DO NOT KNOW. Yes, there are stats, but remember that stats are based on a small sample of the population and that there are always new treatments coming up that would affect those stats.

In my mind, if you tell someone: You have 2 to 3 years left, there is a psychological effect by which this time frame will be stamped in their mind and inevitably, they will not make it over 3 years.

No. This must stop.

I would like to share with you how my OH and myself are approaching this terrifying diagnostic of Advanced Prostate Cancer.

Some might say we are fooling ourselves, but I like to think they are wrong.

First of all, we have agreed a treatment plan that we trust: Triplet therapy.

But that’s not all. We lived a relatively healthy life, but made further adjustments based on a lot of reading and vlog watching about advanced caner (not limited to prostate). I am happy to share the readings, etc. if anyone is interested.

I share everything that I find with my partner. We have a positive mind and when one of us is having a bad day (they do happen), we lift each other up, we do something we like, etc.

We have changed our diet to have less meat (we do love a good steak every now and then), more vegetables, eliminate sugar as much as possible and have more superfood that are believed to interfere with the cancer. MY OH was very active before but even more so now, cycling between 50 and 70km every two days.

We stay away from the negative as much as possible. We have a great oncologist who agreed that we should treat this as a chronic disease rather than a nasty illness that is going to kill him soon.

He said Advanced Prostate Cancer (at least here, in my OH case) is not TERMINAL (I used this word myself early on). This term also must stop being used. It is treatable and there are lots of options in case the cancer stops responding to one of the treatments.

 

We don’t have all the answers, far from. But keeping a positive mind and working together against this disease is the best we can do. Life is normal-ish, we have just been on a two weeks holiday, we go out to concerts, restaurants, etc.

We chose not to give this nasty disease so much importance in our lives, we refuse to give it the power to govern our lives. We are in charge.

 

Wishing everyone a great mid-week!

  • Hello  

    No need to apologise - I make plenty of mistakes and get punished for them, my last one was telling someone they could read my journey by "licking on my avatar". I hope they are still not stuck to the screen! Rofl.

    I blame the augustiner helles

    I am a real ale man myself and live in Oldham - we have a local brewery J W Lees who I have been keeping in profit for the last 50 years, although when the German branch of the family come over I insist on them bringing a crate of Erdinger.

    Best wishes - Brian

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    • I've not written on this forum before.Mainly just scrolled while crying. This post made me feel a whole lot more positive.Thankyou. You are so right. If you have a time limit put on your life it is so much more difficult to enjoy it. Your positivity can only help your fight and enjoyment of life.Happy mid week to you toox
  • Thank you for your reply.  We have an appointment on Monday with the oncologist so going to mention the new pain 

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    It's great that you have posted and welcome to the group. We are all in this together and however you are feeling there's always someone around. 

    It may be a medical discussion, you may want to vent (better here than at home) or you just want a chat - everyone of us here understands because we have that bond - prostate cancer.

    Please do feel free to post and join in any conversations.

    Best wishes - Brian.

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  • Thank you! This is such a positive read and so well written and totally on point! Only yesterday we found out that my partner has advanced mestastic PC, we are still pretty numb but feeling more positive hour by hour. I know this post was nearly a year ago, I hope you are both doing wellHeart️

  • Hi  welcome to the club.  You will be numb for a little time but your post, just the day after diagnosis is amazing. To be thinking about others and encouraging them while you are in turmoil epitomises what this site is about.  As your journey proceeds, you will find by sharing and asking, that this is a very special forum.  Please feel free to ask any questions. 

    Best wishes, David

    Please remember that I am not medically trained and the above are my personal views.

  • Something similar...aged 69 .Radiation completed last Sept '24....now just over 9 months into ADT. Doing ok I thought except bout of shingles then a ' vitreous posterior detachment in my right eye..floaters etc but no loss of sight. Just recently developed limp in right leg. Pain in groin mainly but also in buttock. Went for blood test as precaution as have locally advanced. Cancer in seminal vescules. Blood tests show low red and blood cell count and hemoglobin below required figure. Done my research seems I may have Anemia or worse still problems in bone marrow. Worried sick again. Seems this type of side effect common following Radiation and ADT but not advertised that much. Can go on supplements to sort but these apparent little known side effects not on my radar till now. Anyone else had low blood test counts and Anemia as fall out from treatment ??

  • Hi there, sorry you received this terrible news, the first few weeks are really hard emotionally. 

    It's been over a year since I posted this and I am glad to see it still has a positive impact.

    What a year it has been! My OH is a warrior, went though chemo, radiotherapy, alternative therapies too and on the last PET scan, the tumor had massively reduced, and only one met left, the others are gone! He has been lucky to suffer very little side effects from all the treatments except for the horrible hot flush from HT. He uses sage supplements for that and it seems to do its job (we tried sage tea first but not as effective).

    He still does lots of cycling, works too much most days and we have enjoyed a few holidays, only just coming back from a 5 weeks trip to France and Canada. Life seems pretty normal and we simply enjoy every moment.

    I wish you all the best in this scary journey. Try to keep positive, carry on doing all the things that make you happy, it will be alright x

  • What an inspiring read! I seem to have exactly the same issues that you husband appears to have. Had my first Triplet 3 weeks ago. First 7 days were difficult. Day 8 things improved. Final week was back to 80% fitness. All bearable despite the heatwave!!! Cycle 2 is today. Your attitude is great. By the way my oncologist gave me 5 years on the first meeting this then changed for whatever reason to 4 years in the follow up letter? I am determined to be around much longer than that. So confident that a 3 week trip to Japan has been booked for next Spring.

  • That's the attitude Thumbsup

    The first oncologist when I asked told me 2½ years, I told him he was at least 3 years out. Then when on my next appointment I was seen by the lead consultant he said if the current medication gets me to 5 years he then has alternatives available. Like you I ain't planning on going anywhere soon other than on many holidays