Hi guys and girls
It's been a while since I posted but I think I just need to vent.
Paul isn't doing great - he rang the bell back on 3 Jan from radio and chemo and to say it's been hard since is an understatement.
His diagnose was T4 N1 M0 P16+ right tonsil - now we haven't looked any of that up but just from what the Oncology doctor kept saying to us last week when Paul said at his six week check up about how bloody awful he feels we guessed that it's not a good diagnosis because the doctor kept saying " Well it's a large cancer" in his Italian accent!
Paul has this glue like substance in his mouth which he keeps having to hack up and spit out - Doctor said well you need to nebulise 6 times a day - it makes Paul feel sick. He's on anti sickness because he's barely eating anything and by that I mean feeds as he's got the RIGG and it's not helping right now because when he tries to put some through he can constantly taste it at the back of his throat and again makes him feel sick.
He'a now at least two stone down to what he was before he started treatment. He looks gray and gaunt to me.
They have moved his ENT Head and Neck team appt forward from 20 March to Thursday this week because we are so worried about him.
At the oncology appt last week the doctor then told us that when Paul has his 3 month MRI because his cancer was so big that the MRI might or might not show up something still there or may not (brilliant) in which case we need to wait another 3 months to have another one - no compassion to the fact that then puts even more stress on Paul and I worrying that he might still have cancer!! This doctor has the bed side manner of a tarantula
He's just completely broken down on me this evening and I'd only just walked through the door 20 mins beforehand from work.
I've had to make the decision to go part time to only 3 days a week at work because I feel he needs me at home which then puts financial pressure on us because as you can probably guess PIP are ng next to useless right now. He had a phone assessment about 3 weeks ago and he got a text yesterday saying that they haven't made a decision as yet but when they do make one we will get told
♀️ . We have only just managed to get something from UC and that just about covers the Water DD a month (better than a kick in the you know what's but not going to go far at the moment!)
He's now worried that he isn't getting better because of his bad he feels - not eating so zero energy. Hands and feed freezing no matter what he puts on them. He's trying to nebulise but the stuff that goes in it is salty so makes him feel sick as I menrtioned above.
He goes from being constipated to having the raging trots (no rhyme nor reason to this) he's hardly taking any morphine now because it bunged him up so badly he had to have an enema to try and help. That was a very difficult 10 days!!
It's all a lot right now ️
Hi unfortunately what Paul’s going through isn’t unusual
Firstly scan at 3 months is really early I waited 18 weeks at Leeds cancer centre as often scanning early shows false positives which is what consultant was saying
mucus can take months the to dispersed I resorted to pulling it out with my fingers and using the nebuliser with plain boiled water let it go cold as the saline solutions are salty.
cold extremities again most if us get them and in a few months to go in some cases longer hat and gloves to bed can help plus socks not ideal but not unusual.
Re pain if he needs morphine he also needs laxido or movicol it’s a balancing act I found 1 laxido a day worked for me. He needs nutrition and hydration to aid recovery ours cancer respond well to treatment it’s very wry rare for it to fail at first hurdle for eating I took the food us fuel attitude no pleasure was derived from eating but knew it would help me get better. Hydration is impirtysnt as wrllm
try soda water or flat Diet Coke to help with mucus as well.
it’s not forever it might feel like it but lots of us on here are living a good life. I’m 7 years post treatment.
read this if might help
as for pip sorry can’t help there. I never applied know some who got it and some who didn’t. Hope you do.
You can appeal.
hugs
Hazel.
Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz
My blog is www.radioactiveraz.wordpress.com HPV 16+ tonsil cancer Now 6 years post treatment. 35 radiotherapy 2 chemo T2N2NM.Happily getting on with living always happy to help
2 videos I’ve been involved with raising awareness of HNC and HPV cancers
I’ll add a few bits to Hazel’s excellent reply
IGG and it's not helping right now because when he tries to put some through he can constantly taste it at the back of his throat and again makes him feel sick.
Ask about drip feeding slowly via pump overnight.
If he gets some nutrition into him he will feel better.
This doctor has the bed side manner of a tarantula
No defending him but these guys deal with death every day and go home at night to try to have a family life only to go back to work the next day to start all over again. It’s self preservation to not get involved. There is no sugar coating cancer. He’s right a scan at 12 weeks is likely to show up inflammation. My oncologist told me they would like to scan at six months but that puts undue pressure on the patients.
He's trying to nebulise but the stuff that goes in it is salty so makes him feel sick as I menrtioned above.
Try boiled plain water rather than saline or even simply steaming over a bowl of hot water with a towel over his head
Dani
Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019
Thanks Hazel - he was on laxido and a lot of it and I did absolutely nothing for him that time he was taking sachets of the stuff as directed by the team and still nothing and all it did was keep building up till it was all he could taste at back of throat etc so that's when they intervened and then GP changed lax to senacot and lactose and that seems to work but he still has many problems if he takes too much pain relief. Luckily the ulcers have nearly all gone in his mouth and throat which is amazing so that's a huge positive it's just this general feeling of feeling cr#p that is seriously getting him down and I'm trying the whole it's only seven weeks since end of treatment and it's going to take time but he's worrying about everything including money/work etc bless him xx
Hi Dani, I should have said he's got a pump and that initially worked great until he got so bunged up for 10 days that I think it's caused him some PTSD issues (can't think of the right word so went with that!!) and he's tried a few times during the day to put fRed in over a period of time and it's still not right and feeling it at back of throat etc so it's one of the things we are bringing up on Thursday
Ive told him to not to use pump today and try some proper soup and see if that does the same thing etc and as said little and often might help - it's got to be better than nothing at the moment!
We know that 12 weeks isn't long but it would have made all this a lot easier if:-
1. This was mentioned before treatment started because then we could have prepared ourselves for this news because some of what we are now being told was really flowered up before treatment which doesn't help anyone especially when you are then going through a really shit time and then get hit with that bad boy of information
2. we could actually understand all of what he was saying because his accent is so strong and his English is not so grest lol so that has not helped at all!
I'm going to get Paul to try the boiled water as that's a fabulous idea from you both so thank you never even thought of that!!
Thank you both so much for getting back so quickly - really really appreciate it xx
Hi sadly none of are told at the time . Not everyone gets every side effect and not having an oncologist that you can relate to
must be horrid. Mine was thankfully wonderful and I kept in touch h with him.remember let the boiled water go cool. Soda water wishes round my mouth really helped me.
any questions please pop in
hugs Hazel
Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz
My blog is www.radioactiveraz.wordpress.com HPV 16+ tonsil cancer Now 6 years post treatment. 35 radiotherapy 2 chemo T2N2NM.Happily getting on with living always happy to help
2 videos I’ve been involved with raising awareness of HNC and HPV cancers
Hi
I started ChemoRadio treatment for stage 2 tonsil cancer in April 2023......I lost 3.5 stone during treatment and ended up in hospital.....admitted straight after one of my radiotherapy sessions...Morphine was being administered via a syringe driver, Oramorph and MST....spent 3 days a a time constipated and then a day emptying ....Laxido and Dulcolax....I looked pretty awful and trailing a drip stand to the lav did not help ...things looked pretty grim...took time to improve ...I hated the tube feeding ...it caused pretty awful acid reflux at times...that in itself spurred me on to try to eat small meals...September PET/CT scans were clear...started eating more and recovery gathered pace...it is a difficult treatment and recovery....just takes more time for some....luckily I had great support from oncology... my oncologist/oncology teams were frequently at my bedside to offer updates and support.
Peter
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