Cows milk

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Seems I am on a roll with daft questions at the moment. To cut a very long story short bumped into an acquaintance that turns out also has BC and it's hormone fed like mine. She was having a cuppa and had soya milk. She said that she was told she wasn't allowed cows milk anymore and also to avoid dairy. Now I am somewhat confused. We have both been treated at same hospital and have same cancer (but mine is stage 3 and she is stage 1) so why have I not been told to avoid cows milk?

Has anybody else with hormone fed BC been told by the medical profession to avoid cows milk?

I don't want to Google as no doubt come up with unscientific info and outraged stuff.

  • Interesting question, no I haven’t been told to avoid cows milk, but use organic anyway so not sure if this might be ok?

    hugs xxx

    Moomy

  • Hi

    Not by anyone medical no. But I gave up milk and have soya because if you think about it cows milk is for baby calves and will be full of cow hormones. 

    Also having soya is better for the planet and the milk industry is horrible killing boy calves etc.

    Also my oncologist said it was fine to drink alcohol But if you look at cancer research uk it says any alcohol increases your risk of recurrence. Also the world health organization info says that women who drink soya are less at risk of B.C..

    So really its up to personal choice. I quite like the soya now xx

    Helen
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    FormerMember in reply to moomy

    Very interesting, but I would be wary of too much soya without advice from the hospital , it is used to help the menopause to increase oestrogen. Also be careful to get enough calcium . But don’t panic too much about diet , there is a lot of conflicting advice and I think it is only part of how you get on with this disease , I know a vegan with a very aggressive cancer . Sometimes I think it is pot luck . Best wishes ,,,,,it will get easier!

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    FormerMember

    Hi. My cancer was also hormone positive. Prior to diagnosis I’d just found some soya yoghurts that I loved. After diagnosis my oncologist advised me to give them up but she did say the choice was mine. I try to stick to organic dairy options now. It’s difficult to know what to do for the best sometimes isn’t it?

  • Mine was hormone positive too. I stared to have soya milk and yogs because of the tendency for Letrozole to raise cholesterol. Now I'm hooked on it! I'm aware that it ? contains oestrogen like substances, but how far do you go with all this conflicting advice? , my version has added calcium, and I have the one with NO added sugar. If you read labels on a lot of foods it is shocking how much added sugar ther is! And I so agree with re the cruelties of the dairy industry! Xxx

    Onwards and flatwards (don't do hills) and keep walking if you can!

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    FormerMember

    I avoid all dairy (I'm lactose intolerant/hormone led BC) and soya (initially because I have thyroid problems but then because I read it's not good for my type of BC)  soooooo have found a great alternative in Oat milk but agree there is so much conflicting advice it's just a case of doing what you're happy with. I can do without both so I'm happy until the next survey comes out... x

  • This is from Breast Cancer care  Nov 2017.. I will check if there is anything newer

    Fact: Soy foods such as soy milk and tofu contain natural compounds called phytoestrogens. Foods such as chickpeas and linseeds also contain phytoestrogens.

    Phytoestrogens have a chemical structure that is similar to the female hormone oestrogen. As the hormone oestrogen can stimulate some breast cancers to grow, some people worry whether foods or supplements containing phytoestrogens might have the same effect as oestrogen and increase the risk of recurrence.

    Current evidence suggests that a diet containing naturally occurring phytoestrogens is safe if you’ve had breast cancer and may be beneficial.

    Helen
  • This is American Cancer Society 29th April 2019

    So far, the evidence does not point to any dangers from eating soy in people, and the health benefits appear to outweigh any potential risk. In fact, there is growing evidence that eating traditional soy foods such as tofu, tempeh, edamame, miso, and soymilk may lower the risk of breast cancer, especially among Asian women. Soy foods are excellent sources of protein, especially when they replace other, less healthy foods such as animal fats and red or processed meats. Soy foods have been linked to lower rates of heart disease and may even help lower cholesterol.

    I must add I did this research with two guinea pigs on my Knee Slight smile

    Helen
  • Thank you , xx

    Onwards and flatwards (don't do hills) and keep walking if you can!

  • grass fed cow's milk has properties ... I read about it but haven't been able to rediscover the link

    I will now try harder

     real life success stories to remind you that people do survive breast cancer

    https://community.macmillan.org.uk/cancer_types/breast-cancer/f/38/t/115457

    Dr Peter Harvey

    https://www.workingwithcancer.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/After-the-treatment-finishes-then-what.pdf