Exhausted after 3 years of treatment

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My husband was diagnosed with Stage IV bladder cancer just over 3 years ago.  He made it through chemo (gem-cis) and radiotherapy to consolidate  the good progress made - complete response.  But 4 months later it was clear that the metastases were back (small but there and slowly growing) - the bladder remained clear.  Immunotherapy didn't work but then he got onto a clinical trial  -  sacituzumab govitecan-hziy - which he managed to tolerate for over a year and it kept everything stable with 11% shrinkage.  He was able to do so much while on the trial it was wonderful.

However since the beginning of the year, things have been really bad.  He had to come off the trial in January 2023  because  of  the toxicity.  Low red blood counts and more recently very  low platelets (WBC and neutrophils all OK).  He has been increasingly fatigued - I mean really fatigued.  Then in March 2023 he had two emergency admissions to hospital - the second with sceptic shock. They think it was either a respiratory infection (he has lung metastases) or a urinary infection.  Amazing hospital care in ICU saved him and he has been home now for 2 weeks.  But he is SO exhausted (he says it now feels like exhaustion rather than fatigue) and is losing weight, although he is eating.

 It's the worst he has been since diagnosis and I just don't know how to help him.  This week he has so many tests coming up - bloods, an echocardiogram, and then a big PET scan.  I just hope he has the strength to get to all the appointments.  I suppose we'll know more after all that.  But right now he is lying in bed and so weak.  It's just not like him.  I'm doing all I can to be positive and supportive but inside I am really scared.  

If you have had similar experience - or just have time to reach out as a fellow patient or carer  - it would mean a lot.  I don't want to overload our family with my worries too often.

Many thanks

  • Virtual hugs to you and your husband.He is probably extra exhausted from the septic shock and it’s bound to take time to recover from such a major infection.It could be a combination of the infection and the treatment for it that has made your husband so wiped out.It’s so hard to sleep in hospital too and rest at home will help now.I wish I could help but we are all hear to listen and support where we can.Love Jane x

  • I'll add my virtual hugs to Jane's Swan173. 

    Always, always check with a pharmacist. Worth asking if the pharmacist/hosp team agree to him trying some Vitamin B complex and Ubiquinol supplements to help even a little with the fatigue. And gut friendly bacteria capsules to work towards replacing his good gut microbiome, as he must have had massive antibiotics which will have wiped them out. Without a healthy microbiome the digestion is unable to get all the nutrients into the body from the food eaten. Reputable bacteria suppliers will have a helpline for advice on his paricular situation. Don't forget to check with the medics/pharmacist .

    Also whether he should have Ensure/Fortisip/Calogen etc to build him up. These can be prescribed if appropriate. They often start with a multi-flavour starter trial pack, then you can ask for preferred varieties.

    If so, I found when my Mum was on these to combat weight loss from Parkinson's, they can be made more tempting by modifying, especially if the treatments have left your husband's sense of taste dulled/altered as some do. So for instance, add a spoonful of super-strong coffee [can be decaff if better] to a chocolate flavour dessert to make it 'mocha' just for a change or to a 'vanilla' one just to be coffee flavour. Or icecream mixed with one of the milky-drink ones like a milk-shake. Or low-salt stock cubes or curry powder/paste to make a savoury one less bland.

    At some point it would be good to chat to the Macmillan helpline for support and guidance for both of you. As things progress the family are going to have to understand what the situation is, and I think the helpline can guide you with this.

    Best wishes

    Denby

  • Hello Jane.  Thanks so much for your kind and sensible reply.  The virtual hugs really helped. 

    Swan
  • Hello Denby.  Thanks so much for this kind and practical reply.  I'm sure you are right about the down side of the antibiotics - he had so many bags of them.  Also very helpful to have the details of the Ubiquinol and other supplements.  I won't forget to run everything by our  pharmacist/doctor.

    All the best

    Swan
  • Hi Swan,I was going to suggest the nutritional supplements but Denby has beaten me to it.I hope your husband will be well enough to get to his appointments.Love Jane xx