What to expect?

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My husband has incurable spinal & lung mets (the primary is bowel cancer, diagnosed & treated 2 yrs ago))

He has been home now about 6 weeks.  He was admitted as an emergency to an orthopaedic ward as it was thought he had a slipped disc, but the MRI & CT scan told us a different story.  he was moved to other wards but in the end sent home as there is nothing more they can do for him.  He is now unable to walk, or sit up unaided and has to be hoisted from bed to chair or chair to bed or commode or anywhere. 

I care for all his daily needs and attend to all his personal care, the district nurse comes in once a week to check his pressure areas, though he doesn't really have any as such - but he does have areas where the skin has been rubbed as he's tried to move himself. 

We did have carers for 2 weeks but in all honesty they weren't really useful, they were nice people and helpful when they were here, but the system isn't geared to help people when they actually need it, they weren't here when he needed the commode, they weren't here when he needed to move out of bed because the pain was too great etc,  so I took a quick course in hoisting and in the end we decided to stop the care, our daughter, who lives fairly locally with her young family,  also learned how to hoist her dad.  

So really we are managing.  Intially after feeling very abandoned I think I'm coming to terms with things, we seem to have had to nudge and cajole and fight even for support.  We have been on both sides, as I know a lot of you also have, of  the cancer merry go round, and it seems to me that if you are treatable all the the stops are pulled out, if you're not......well that's it.

We had to ask the GP to visit - despite them getting the discharge summary etc - when she eventually did - we had to ask for referral to the palliative care team - who, incidently have contacted us once , but have still to arrange a meeting.

Meanwhile my husband seems to be going slowly downhill, sometimes he is bright, but those times are getting fewer, and I keep thinking - I'm not trained for this - I have a huge responsibilty and no one has told me how I cope.  I do feel a little alone sometimes.

Feeling a little overwhelmed sometimes.

  • Hi and a very warm welcome to the online community although I'm sorry that you've had to find us

    I see that you joined the community a few months ago but that this is your first post in this group. I'm sorry that none of the members of this group have been able to share their experiences with you yet and wondered if it might be an idea to join the much busier carers group.

    To join just click on the link I've created and then choose 'join this group' on the page that opens. You can then introduce yourself and copy and paste your post from here into a new thread there.

    Unfortunately there are lots of people in the carers group in the same position as you and I can assure you that you'll never feel alone with their support.

    Sending a supportive ((hug))

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    Hi felt compelled to reply..my dad died 8 weeks ago of renal cancer that spread to his spine. Like your husband he was unable to move, and after being in hospital for 8 weeks, he came home to a bed in the dining room, with a hoist etc, but sadly he was never hoisted out, as he died 5 days later. We had carers coming in 4x a day as by then, even using a commode was impossible. 

    What got us all through this period was the support of the GP and the district nurses..they were fantastic so please do make sure you fight for more contact. Maybe it is because they knew my dad was so close to dying, but their care was exemplary.  We were told the nurse would come about twice a week but in those 5 days, she came very day. On the Friday of the week, the GP turned up with Dads prescription but she also left lots of vials of drugs for the district nurse, but mum didn’t know what they were for..On the saturday. I arrived  and the district nurse came, with a doctor. They took us to one side and told us dad was in heart failure and was in the final stages of his life.  At this point, they fitted a pump to him and we realised why the GP had brought those vials...the nurse stayed hours that day and when she left, she reassured others would come every 3 hours or so, which they did.  The final nurses came, and they gave a sedative also to dad..he died about 2 hours later, with me and mum at this side...with their care, he was calm through the day, and I was able to talk to him, hold his hand, read to him, show him photos of where he grew up etc..even though his speech wasn’t very coherent by this point, he held the photos, and nodded slightly..I noticed he was prone to kind of hallucinate eg, someone on the tv had blue paint on them, and they dad told me to take the paint off him, so that’s why I focused in reading to him, showing him photos, talking abut the birds in the garden etc. 

    Sorry to go on..hope you don’t  mind..I guess my point is, I know he was ok and peaceful at the end, despite how terrible the months before had been...and in the end, the local services were there as we needed them. 

    Thinking of you all at this time,  wishing you strength,  and hoping you can all find moments of light despite everything xxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Moggiington,  Thank you for your reply, and I'm so sorry to read about your dad, but heartend to find you and your mum were able to be with him and that he was in his own home.  I'm also glad to read that you had the support of the GP and district nurses. 

    My husband has been re-admitted this week to hospital with sepsis, he was improving but last night developed another complication, diarrhoea,  and is feeling quite unwell today.  We wait to see what has caused this.

    In the meantime I'm just hoping that he manages to get well enough to come home soon. 

    I really appreciate your reply and I wish you  and your mum strength too over the coming months.

    XXXX

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    FormerMember in reply to latchbrook

    Thank you, I may well try that group too.  At present my husband has been re-admitted to hospital so my days are busier with travelling to & fro, but it's the evenings that are empty so I will take your advice.

    Thanks for the hug.  XXX

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi.

    Im really sorry for your struggle. Just want to say that my family found ourselves in a similar situation in the weeks leading to my dad's death in November 2017. He was admitted to hospital in the September, unable to sit-up or walk. He was discharged from hospital with carers coming twice a day. They weren’t allowed to lift dad, administer his meds nor move him into different positions. We have just now been compensated for the retrospective nursing care that he didn’t receive. 

    When discharged from hospital, people with chronic illness should have an assessment for continuing nhs health care. Their families should be consulted in the decision prior to discharge. Please insist on this assessment being carried out, otherwise you will be left as a family to deal with the consequences of this horrible, destructive illness on your own.

    Love and wishes for the best outcome xx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Lucky80 - thanks for your reply. And I'm sorry to read about your dad.

    My husband was assessed for CHC before he was discharged in August, but failed to meet the criteria - apparently you have to be expected to live 12 weeks or less! Though how they work that out is a mystery to me as no one is able to tell us how long he has left. 

    Our GP has referred him to the palliative care team, a few weeks ago now and I've asked for that to be chased up as we've heard nothing. 

    But I feel  I chase up and nothing happens - I think we might be left as you say to deal with this ourselves - there's only so much badgering and chasing you can do. 

    Having said that I'm probably luckier than most as I have a niece who is the senior nurse at s hospice in Wales & a brother in law who is a GP in Somerset, unfortunately we live in Hampshire - but they are a wealth of information and experience and always on the end of a phone if I need them. 

    Meanwhile my husband just sleeps, he's hardly eating anything and I have to really encourage him to drink. 

    Again thank you for replying.  Take care. X 

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi in all honesty and I’m sorry too say it when they stop eating it means the body is preparing too die I went through all your going through and had no idea I tried everything getting his favourite foods but nothing worked . The body decides not us or the doctors . It was truly devastating when we as family were told he had days too live but he’d had symptoms for weeks but a seizure and admission too hospital confirmed what I had been ignoring I’m sorry your going through this as it’s awful . My partner was in the hospital for 4 days on a syringe driver until a space at the hospice was available it was devastating as much as you know it’s happening the reality is heartbreaking. I still question everything I did all part of grieving I’m told . You do whatever you think is best for your loved one when your ready . Tell them you love them everyday talk about happy times . Here if you need too talk Selina