Pancaking

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Hi, does anyone have any advice on how to avoid pancaking?

I’ve had my stoma for 8 weeks now & it’s something that’s occurred on & off but pretty much all the time in the last 2 weeks?

I've been measuring by stoma to make sure I cut the bags correctly, adding roll up bits of toilet paper & baby oil but nothing seems to work. My stoma nurse gave me some different bags to try but alas nothing.

Any advice, tips or tricks would be appreciated.

Kind regards, 

JBJ

  • Hi Kath, thanks for the advance.

    I to have convex bags & have tried baby oil but never thought of rubbing the bag together. I will give that a go tonight, thanks again.

    JBJ.

  • Yes baby oils good

    Once my supplier told me to before attaching the bag to put Vaseline through the opening rubbing it opposite where the stoma would be when attached. 
    Well after applying the Vaseline I then had greasy hands and I had to apply the bag at which point Whoopi decided to erupt. 
    So no I wouldn’t recommend it but I’ve heard that many do. 

    Ann
     ‍Art

  • What a lovely dead-pan response.

    I'm pleased to say that so far Charlie Farnsbarns has given none of the troubles you all describe, I'm sorry for you.  Occasionally the matter builds up high in the pouch round the stoma rather than dropping down - is that what you all mean by pancaking?

  • Yes. That’s a pancake. 

    Not pretty 

    Ann
     ‍Art

  • I guess I've been lucky.  The (knighted) surgeon who formed my stoma made it almost perfectly round and neatly proud, so a pouch that's been cut-to-size following the appropriate guideline fits snugly.  There is barely any space for matter to rermain other than on the surface of the stoma itself when the pouch is removed.  I assume that's the issue with pancaking?

  • Yes that can be the issue however sometimes it’s diet and dehydration. I have had pancaking with my stoma and it  is now  proud

    Being an Ileostomy my output should be more watery however I’ve also had issues with over stodgy output that can cause the plate to lift 


    The pouch sometimes hasn’t  stuck properly maybe old stock or my output has been too thick especially at night and being laid flat. It can be distressing to say the least at four in the morning

    Hopefully JBJ will be able to stop this happening by adjusting some of the above. 

    It’s early days though.  

    Ann
     ‍Art

  • Sorry to read that.

    It's the old 'we're all different' thing isn't it?  As I'm placed, with a colostomy, there isn't enough force in my intestines to break the seal.  So far I've only had that happen to me when I've pushed my luck and allowed the pouch to get very full - sitting can then cause the seal to fail.

    But now I recall that when I was in hospital with a bout of diarrhoea they had bad trouble getting the adhesive to work if the area was contaminated by the liquid (proper cleaning notwithstanding).

    JBJ, do you have a colostomy or an ileostomy? I've looked but I may have missed it.  If an ileostomy I'll butt out and leave you with Artsie, who'll give excellent advice.     

  • Think I’m the one that’s different so I need to butt out 

    JBJ has a colostomy that was my first question  we’ve just been chatting really 

    JoyJoyJoy

    Ann
     ‍Art

  • I call mine Hamid after my surgeon  ot sh*t pot when it plans up. Curiously I don't think of it as a he or a she. Perhaps it should be a 'they '.

    Kath
    "don't think about tomorrow"

  • Love that Kath 

    Sh*t pot suits mine too. 
    They is probably the correct identification. I just decided the name first then the pronoun 

    Ann
     ‍Art