Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    This is a song by Eva Cassidy, a particular favourite, such a soulful voice.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFFo1pu4q7Q

    Liz thank you dear lady for inviting me to join in, when I go back to work it cannot be three oclock, but I will post later every friday.
    Hope you are ok dear lady.

    Biggest of hugs to all
    Love Maryxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    I missed the dance at 3:00.............we were in the car stuck in traffic - but I'm listening to the Searchers singing 'Stand by Me'............appropriate i think as it's something we all do for our friends here



    Love and ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))0000 to all



    Dot xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Dot, I'm sure you thought and jiggled a bit! I thought you were going to do the 'Been together for 40 years'!!!!

    Moomy

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    Hi everyone,



    I got back from Keswick late last night and have had to spend today catching up on washing, ironing and food shopping. Found my car tyre was flat, so had to go and get that sorted. Cant say I had a good week away because I didn't. The weather was horrid on all but 2 days, and sharing a house with 10 inlaws was not easy for me who is used to peace and quite. The only good day I had was when me and my husband managed to get away from everyone else and took a two seater cabin cruiser around Derwent Water for a few hours. We also paid a visit to Morecombe and had a bit of a laugh taking our picture with the statue of Eric Morecombe doing his 'bring me sunshine' dance.



    Liz: Im sorry to hear that your still having to wait for appointments.



    Helen: Congratulations on your 40th anniversary. I hope you and your husband have a wonderful day tomorrow.



    I'm hoping that all is as good as possible with all my friends and I wish everyone a good weekend.



    Love

    Christine

    xxx



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    Helen - I remembered that later and had a go at warbling that too!!!! xxxxx
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    Hi Christine - Lake District weather is notoriously wet and miserable most of the year..........I think late Spring or very early Summer are best............We went to Windermere this time last year and it poured all week!!! We needed wellies and waterproofs - not sandals and sunhats!!!!



    But the change of scene and fresh air are sooooo good



    Love and ((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))



    Dot xxxxxxxxxxx
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    I agree Dot. The nicest thing is just getting away from the usual household chores, and just being together as a family.....Its been so difficult this year to get all four of us together in the same place for more than a few hours. So six days together was a bit of a miracle.



    xx
  • Christine, so glad you managed to all get together, even if it was the reverse of a quiet time! the Lakes is renowned for dishing out weather of ll sorts, I've been there in anything from a drought to a white-out! Also remember seeing a complete re-route of a river bed from rain and more rain!

    I wish you good luck with all the washing and ironing, today here we had WICKED showers!

    my love and hugs to you all

    Moomy

  • Good morning All
    (((Hi Liz)))
    Have a lovely bank holiday weekend doing the things you like best.
    Love crystal xx
  • FormerMember
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    Hi all
    "Are friends and family ever enough?"...ive just gone through the various replies & am thinking exactly that question.
    Since diagnosis a week ago (waiting for my first Consultants appt on Tuesday) ive found it hard to tell office colleagues (it took me all week). I have not yet told family, this i will do over the next week.
    Yes i'm scared of the future & more importantly of the support i will get from friends/family knowing what its been like suffering from Crohn's for 25 years & knowing how nobody wanted to discuss bowels:)
    I also worry what my partner is going through having sat with me at the GP's as he told me this diagnosis. She knows i bottle things up & tells me i must share my thoughts.

    Hoping you all have a wonderful Bank hol weekend, suns shining here at present.

    Dave xx