Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Liz, I too hope your shoulder can get sorted, another op is presumably on the cards? Shoulders aren't easy, but repairs can be done and are usually good, they do need hard work afterwards, once you are allowed, but the results can be great! So, if surgery is needed, don't get too worried about it, I'm sure it will help in the long run!

    To all of you, my love and hugs

    Moomy

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    Dear Christine - Happy anniversary for yesterday...sorry I'm late with it..........Hope you had a lovely time with your family??? xxx



    Liz - So sorry to hear you're still troubled by your shoulder - I hope the docs will be able to fix it for you soon...................xxxxxxxxxxxx



    Love and ((((((((((hugs)))))))))))) to all on here



    Dot xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    hi everyone .

    last saturday i went to my friends house to sort out here house ..it was an emotional day .....i got the job of sorting and packing away her clothes etc .....a really personal thing to do ...there was some laughter at some of the serious fashion crimes she committed !!!!!

    it is getting easier as time goes by , but oh how i do miss her !!!!


    my song for today is 'layla ' by derek and the dominoes ....simply because its a classic track and i love it and it gets the feet and body tapping and moving .
    love to you all
    sue xxxxxxxx

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    hi everyone .

    last saturday i went to my friends house to sort out her house ..it was an emotional day .....i got the job of sorting and packing away her clothes etc .....a really personal thing to do ...there was some laughter at some of the serious fashion crimes she committed !!!!!

    it is getting easier as time goes by , but oh how i do miss her !!!!


    my song for today is 'layla ' by derek and the dominoes ....simply because its a classic track and i love it and it gets the feet and body tapping and moving .
    love to you all
    sue xxxxxxxx

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    ((((((((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))))))) Sue



    My song for today...............'You'll Never Walk Alone' by Gerry and the Pacemakers!!!!!!! I'm regressing to my 'yoof'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I think it's appropriate for here - so that our many friends will know that they don't have to walk alone along this path chosen for us all by Mr C..........................



    Love and ((((((hugs))))))) to you all - enjoy your dance



    Dot xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    SONG FOR TODAY....

    "SOMEONE LOVES YOU HONEY" .....BY JUNE LODGE


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujaDdFxPygs&feature=related


    :-)

  • Hello All
    I hope this is a really good day for each and every one of you and that your weekend is peaceful and fun.
    Christine, many congratulations on your 25 anniversary of the 23 June xx. Are you going to the festival? Wish I were there.
    My song for Dance the Crap out of Cancer is for my friend John in Paris.
    John, after every potentially fatal complication post-surgery, you made it. Leonard Cohen said, ‘There’s a crack in everything – that’s how the light gets in.’ This is for you John.“Anthem” by Leonard Cohen Live in London 2009 [Audio Only]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-c0OjTisbU
    With lots of love
    Crystal xxx
    PS: Paris in the Autumn!
    And don’t let’s forget about the King of Pop, Michael Jackson, who passed away yesterday. Michael Jackson - Best Dance Moves.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKBLxh3u0tM

  • It's Friday, and 'dance the c**p out of cancer' at 3pm......my tune, well, as Sunday's concert is coming up fast, it's the final choral section of Beethoven's 9th symphony, its 7 minutes long so should be a really good dance! And will give me a chance too, to revise!

    Moomy

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    Hi everyone.
    I just go in on time to join todays dance. As Im still loving Kasabian's new album, its going to be 'Fire'.
    Glasto is very loud this year.
    Love to all.

    Got to go and dance now.
    Christine
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    I enjoyed my dance very much. Then I listened to Crystals choice of music. Wow, I'd forgotten just what a genius lyricist Mr Cohen is. Its been such a long time since I'd heard any of his songs, except of course for the brilliant 'Halleljah' which I listen to occassionally. I must do myself a favour and listen to some more.

    I hope everyone enjoyed their choice of song and, for whatever reason they were dancing today, I'm sure it has helped them and whoever/whatever they were dancing for.

    Its warm, humid and wet here today and Glasto seems louder than ever before. Unfortunately I'm not there... I'm afraid my poor old body couldn't cope with it. I'll just have to suffice by keeping the windows open so that I can hear it, and watch it on tele.

    I hope everyone has a nice weekend.

    Loads of love and good wishes

    Christine
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