Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Good morning everyone, I hope your all fine this morning.

    Liz........I hope your Gym goes well today. Dont overdo it to quickly, it can be very off putting when you pull a muscle.
    Sue. I hear your doing well with your excercises as well...........WELL DONE.

    I've lost a few pounds, but unfortunately only because I'm putting food in one end and it is going straight through and out the other end before it has a chance to turn to fat in my body. I'm betting that I gain the weight again once I'm better......which should be soon, as I had my morning porridge half an hour ago, and it hasn't come out yet.......lol. Cleaning The Toilet

    Paul has lost one of my 2Gb camera memory cards.......... Be Mad so I'm missing loads of holiday picks. I'll have to post some that Paul took........His are probably better than mine anyway as he has a better camera, and is a better photographer than me

    Yesterday was spent doing bits of tidying and washing, so today has to be loads of ironing. If I get it all done I'll be very pleased with myself...............I'm very easily pleased.....ROLF.

    I hope everyones day goes well.

    Love
    Christine








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    Hi there,

    Liz is training for the 2012 Olympics............... High Dive.

    Spent all day on the net researching the advantages and disadvantages of having Zoledronate treatment, this a once a year infusion of a
    zoledronic acid, a type of bisphosphonate which is supposed to help repair bones and prevent further lose of calcium in Oesteoporosis.
    My GP wants me to have this. After much thought I have decided that the side effects are to dibilitating and would probably lower my quaulity of life so I have just phoned my GP and said "NO". I will wait for 6 months to a year and try some herbal and excercise solutions.....and a lot of mind over matter, which always helps, and then have another bone scan to see what is happening. (Assuming I'm still here in a year). When I asked my GP what the outcome would be if I did'nt have his treatment, he said I stand a 15% chance of a serious break to the spine within 10 year............................10 YEARS..............WHAT A LAUGH!. It doesn't take a genius to work out that those odds are excellent as far as I'm concerned.

    Whoops sorry, I think this is turning into a bit of a nag. I've got to see my oncologist tomorrow morning but then I might also go and see my Chinese medical centre and see what they suggest.

    Hope you all have a good evening.

    Christine
    x

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    Hi everyone,
    aaww Liz, im sorry to hear your news and you were doing so well at the gym as well,
    i hope you soon get it sorted let us know how you get on at the doctors.
    Christine, its great to have you back hope your delhi belly clears up really soon,
    look forward to hearing all about it, and seeing some pics when you post them,
    I hope your mum is feeling ok.
    Sue, im thinking of you and your dear friend and hope she is comfortable.
    Helen, hope you are ok and are getting over that nasty cough.
    Well im off to do some shopping then having my grandson round.
    Love and big hugs to you all xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    Good Morning all.

    Liz, you poor thing......I hope the doc can sort you out quickly, and with little or no pain. You'd better stick to exercising from the waist down until you heal properly.

    Nice to hear from you Dianne. I hope you have a pleasant days shopping and enjoy your grandson this afternoon.

    Moomy, Sue, and everyone else: I hope you all have a good day whatever your doing.

    I did post just 3 pics to Liz. They were only from Lake Phewa and the Himalayas but I will post some more as soon as I can sort them out properly. I tried to post some on this site......but Sorry......I'm far to stupid to know how. I think what I will have to do is put some on Facebook and also, when I have time, I'll send you all some by E-Mail.

    I did send everyone postcards and hopefully you will receive them soon. They were all sent at the same time, on 29th March in Varanasi. I give my apologies in advance because I know they were a bit boring pictures on the postcards, but all I could find at the time.

    Had my 4 monthly oncology checkup this morning and all seems fine. Actually, they dont do anything to check me. All that seems to happen is, I tell them how I'm feeling and how I think I am, and they say "OK fine. See you in another 4 months" and off I go. The whole thing takes about 5 minutes.

    STILL not done my ironing, so must do some today.

    Stay well.
    Love
    Christine
    x

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    hi folks .

    im doing okish !

    my friend is much weaker in condition and remains in the hospice .
    thanks for the lovely messages from you all
    suexxxxx

  • Liz, I do hope there is nothing too serious, poor you, now just don't do too much so that you will heal again.....hope that is all the injury you have......

    Christine, am so looking forward to those piccies, maybe you could just post them onto facebook?

    Sue, thinking of you and your friend too, and hoping she is fairly painfree, at least she is in the best place for that.....

    Dianne, have fun with your dear family, they are so good looking......

    my love and hugs to you all......

    Moomy

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    Good Morning everyone,

    Helen, I will try to post those pix onto Facebook but it may take an hour or so because, firstly, I'm not the brightest of sparkes on the computer and secondly its been a bit hectic here this morning.
    We had an attempted breakin last night and this morning has been a stream of police and CSI officers dusting for prints and taking statements. They did not gain access to our house, but gave it a good go by levering of the wooden beading from around the windows in our rear lounge. Not much damage done, just a few gouge marks around the wooden window frames. Unfortunately the theiving blighters did manage to get into on the houses further down the road and stole their car keys......and then stole their car, so thats probably what they were trying to do to us.

  • Oh, Christine, what a rotten thing to happen, I did hear and guess to that crime would be on the increase, its what seems to happen in a downturn, isn't it? But not too nice all the same.....your poor neighbours, and you too with the damage, hope the insurance will sort it for you all.....

    Moomy

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    Sorry! had to cut short there.
    Mum just phoned to say they are taking her into hospital. She is having blader problems and they think that something may be pressing against her bladder or lower spine. My poor little Mum. It hurts me so much to see her going through this. Somehow its easier to go through it yourself than to watch someone you love having to suffer. I really hoping that this is not going to mean they have to stop her chemo as she desperately needs to complete this new course of chemo. If they have to stop it then I think it will be a case of pallitive care only..........and I done know how she is going to deal with that..........and I do know that I'm not ready to deal with that!

    Liz: I hope your feeling better after your exercise damage. Has anyone managed to repair you.......I hope they have. Keep smiling through. You'll get there in the end.

    Going to have a large cup of coffe and a small cry.

    Bless you all.
    Christine xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    aww Christine, what a rotten day you are having im so sorry to hear about your dear
    mum, i hope they manage to get things sorted for her quickly and she can continue
    with the chemo......And the events of last night as well, i hope they havent done too
    much damage, but i know how unsettling things like that are. (((((((((( HUGS )))))))))

    Liz, i hope you are feeling better, and the doctor managed to repair the damage,
    Love and big hugs to everyone on here xxxxxxxxx