Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    Hello everyone
    I've had a lovely day. We sat at the dinner table for 6 hours constant chatting, eating and drinking.......sticky toffee pudding and birthday cake. Now Im exhausted and sat in bed with coffee and some extremely rich chocolates which one of my dear friends brought for me.
    My diet has gone right out the window today......never mind......I'll start again tomorrow.

    Once again, thank you everyone for your Birthday wishes, and Moomy your being modest......you've got a lovely singing voice....that was the most in tune rendition of Happy Birthday I've ever heard.

    Im not the type of person who packs in advance when Im going away...... Its always a last minute panic. As we are moving around loads, I will only take the bare essentials with me. (no heavy suitcases) Then, if I need anything else, I'll just buy it at the local shops or markets. My case will probably consist of disposable undies and load of medications. I'll be a walking chemist......ready for anything.........lol.

    I wish I could take my laptop, I think I might suffer withdrawal symptoms for the first few days cos I'll miss you all so much.

    I hope everyones day has been pleasant and peaceful.

    Christine
    x

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    Hi
    Christine I'm so glad you had a wonderful day for your birthday and that you were thoroughly spoilt - just as it should be! I must admit the coffee and chocolates in bed sounded very decadent and very appealing!
    You're so right to travel light - you will be able to get lovely colourful, inexpensive clothes in India if you need them so why take many others with you? As long as you have got the "essentials" you will be fine!
    Dianne thanks for your welcome - I've been with Share since October but I don't post on many threads so it was very nice of you notice me.
    I hope everyone has a good day.
    Love, Judy xx
  • Christine, I'm so glad you had a good day, what a wonderful way to finish, choccies and drink in bed!

    Caz took a bag inside her case when she flew this morning, we left here at about4.30! She too thought she needed some spare space for souvenirs! She is looking forward to finding what curries taste like in India, she has her favourite places to eat here, said in her text that even boarding, she could smell curry! ( flying Air India!)

    Hope all of you are having a good day, my love and hugs to all

    Moomy

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    Hi all.
    How exciting for Caz. Please tell me more about the trip Helen. Is Caz going on a work trip or holiday, or a bit of both? Where is she going and for how long? I hope she has a fab time!!!!!

    Christine

    x

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    Hello everyone,
    Christine im glad you enjoyed your birthday, sounds like a lovely day, bet you are looking
    forward to your holiday lucky you, dont forget my postcard haha.
    Helen you were up bright and early this morning, im sure Caz will enjoy the curries there
    bet they are hot though, all these people going away are making me jealous.
    Ive been busy painting my spare bedroom, my son moved out in July and ive only just
    got round to starting it, he left so much stuff here that he doesnt want but im so sentimental
    i just tidied it all up and put it back, so i still havent got any space.
    Hope everyone is ok and you have all had a good day
    Love and hugs xxxxxx
  • Hello to you all on here, I'm now properly back on line and just loving it! Surprising the phone, though at least a way of letting all you lovely peeps know that I'm about and still thinking of you all, it is slow and such a lot slower than being on line via the wifi box, that as the Mac site is slow, i was often timed out!

    Christine, just be ready for poor air quality, Caz rang this morning and said there was quite a smog in Mumbai till the sun got going to help clear it, she says the food is so cheap and good, but she is disappointed at her hotel, not nearly as good as she had hoped. She's going to negotiate to see if there's a better room available

    Liz, hope the shoulder is getting on well

    Sue, hope your fitness is helping that elbow and it is easing a bit

    LizBrad, hope Geoff is getting on ok

    My love and hugs to all, will catch up eventually! You'll have to remind me all thats been happening!

    Moomy

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    Hi everyone
    Thanks for the warning about the air quality Helen. Im not going to Mumbai but all of northern India is known to suffer from smog and fog at this time of year. I'm hoping it wont be so bad by the time we go. I hope Caz manages to get an upgraded hotel room.

    Today I took Mum out for a lovely Lunch and then we went to her oncology appointment. Her white cells have increased yet again (which is very worrying) and the consultant said she must now go on to Monthly check-ups so that they can keep a closer eye on her. They said they are going to hold off on the Chemo.....hopefully for another month or two. I hope its two months....that way I wont have the worry of knowing she is going to be feeling c**p when we're on holiday.

    I've got a whole day at home tomorrow.....which Im looking forward to, as I've been a bit busy lately. I've definately eaten to much over the last few days as Im feeling quite sick.....so going to go now, and try and rest.

    I hope everyone has had a good day today, and I wish you all a very peaceful evening and night.

    Christine
    x

  • Christine, I'm sorry, I didn't check back, to answer your query, Caz is playing with the symphony orchestra out there, several English musicians go each year, apparently, there are only two concerts but she is out for a week, hoping to see just a few sights (if the fog permits, lol!) but of course, there will be rehearsals too. We expect her back next Sunday, then she has a week of teaching and conducting down in London, but a couple of nights here first to recover!

    Hope you enjoy your day of rest tomorrow, Christine.....build up strength and stamina ready for the trip!

    love and hugs to all.....

    Moomy

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    hi everyone , not been on here for a few days ....busy busy busy .

    as an update i lost 3 more pounds in weight last week ....a total of 9 lbs now , losing inches as well .

    moomy ...the exercise is really helping , elbow is bearable !!!!!

    to everyone else , hi and take care of yourselves

    suexxxxxxx

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    Hi Christine (and all)
    Just thought I would pop in briefly and let you know our news. We saw the oncologist today and things are looking good - Mal's tumour has now reduced to just thickening around the original site and the two affected nodes are back to a normal size! We are so pleased at the fantastic news - the oncologist is writing to the surgeon to ask him to reconsider Mal for an operation. Even if he says "no" everything is so much more positive than it was a few months ago and now that Mal has finished his chemo he can have some treatment free time, he's so pleased.
    I hope everyone has had a comfortable day - a few of you seem to have painful joints amongst other things so I hope they have been OK today.
    love, Judy xx