Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Hello to you all, Christine, hope those boys of yours are cleaning your car since they are allowed to use it? hope all is well....

    Liz, it's really good that your shoulder is getting more movement, good on you! Its hard work, I remember doing that myself!

    Sue, hope your night duty is ok and you aren't getting too exhausted by it all

    Dianne, missing you, hope you are feeling brighter?

    Lizbrad, hope things are going a wee bit better for you and especially your hubs.....

    love and hugs to all....

    Moomy

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    Well Done Liz!........you keep that shoulder moving and you soon be able to get back into work.
    Helen: Your sounding very well at at moment.....long may it continue. We need you to keep us all on our toes.

    Dianne, Sue, and everyone else: I'm thinking of you and hoping your having a good, peaceful and happy week.

    I have been shopping today for my hubbies birthday pressies. He's very hard to buy for, so just a few T-shirts ect from the children and nothing from me (except a card with all the soppy words that I want to say to him)......I'm going to buy him something when we go to India. (maybe a game of golf up in the Himalayas).

    I heard back from my oncologist and.....HOOORAY! they have agreed that I can have the vaccinations I need. So now only the small hurdle of my bone scan on 10th Feb.

    May you all walk lightly and freely through life.

    Christine
    xxxxxx



  • Yay, Christine, thats great, so Himalayas, here you come, eh? now do be careful, altitude sickness can be nasty.......lol! I'm ok, the wanderer comes tonight sometime, in fact, her room is ready, we just await her, lol! Next appointment is Monday Feb 2nd, so we are a wee bit concerned about that of course.....but at least we do know if it starts up again there are more trials, just so long as she can find time for treatment in her busy schedule!

    Moomy

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    hi moomy and christine

    my nights went well , not too tiring , i have just had three days off and spent them 'spring cleaning' ....i feel very virtuous now !!!!!

    just got back from the docs .....i have been rather snappy and irritable lately , part of me isnt surprised with all that has happened personally these past 8 months ...anyway im stressed !!!! so the doc is signing me up for exercise on prescription to help me ...plus im starting a healthy eating plan ( hate the word DIET !!!!) ...i have lost 21 lbs since last january and gone down a dress size , but would like to lose some more weight and firm up the flab !!!!...so off to the gym and swimming i am going !!!!

    i have to go the hospital tomorrow for an x ray on my elbow , its not 'tennis elbow ' as was originally diagnosed the docter thinks its osteo arthritis starting ....yuck !!!!! in the mean time i have to take anti inflammatories /put cream on the area .

    back to work tomorow for 4 nights and then i have a week annual leave ....oh joy !!!!!!!!!!!

    love to you all
    suexxxxxxxxx





  • oooooooh, Sue, exercise, gym, swimming, on prescription??????? wow! Good for you, too, losing all the weight! Bet the spring cleaning must have helped, too....sorry about the elbow, though, hope the meds help you, big hugs for being so good!

    Moomy

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    hi moomy

    apparently i only pay half towards the normal gym fee and get 24 sessions with a free swim afterwards , its to help me on the road to regular exercise .and reduce stress levels , i also have a relaxation track to listen too on my mp3 player ....so hopefully snappy sue will become chilled sue !!!!!!

    i have let things 'go' so much these past 8 months in the house , so it was very therapeutic tidying , dusting , and throwing things out ...l the local hospice charity shop will be grateful !!!

    i feel very tired but also very uplifted after my splurge !!!! i also found things i had 'lost' which was another nice benefit to cleaning !!!!
    the other nice side to all this is i will be able to share the experience with my fella as he started the gym last week , he loves it and has already lost half a stone in weight .............things are looking up in starann world !!!!
    suexxxxxxxxx

  • Wow, good on you both then........keep it up too, as that's the best way, used to have a very sensible consultant, who said, if you eat more than you burn off you will put on weight, if you eat less than you burn off, you will lose weight! Basic but a good way to think!

    Moomy

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    good advice moomy !!!

    i was told as a nurse that ....dieting loses fat and exercise loses inches .

    i am just going to eat healthly and exercise , i decided to alter my lifestyle new years eve finally after 8 years of self indulgence .
    but am also going to concentrate on my emotional and spiritual well being too as well as the physical .

    as my friend keeps telling me ' to take time to smell the roses sue ' !!!!
    suexxxxxxxxxxx
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    Hello all my dear friends on here, sorry i havent been about much lately but i do often
    think of you all and i want to say a big thank you for all your messages they mean so
    much to me and i do try to answer them all.
    Liz, thank you for the phone call, it was good to talk to you again, and thank you for the
    lovely card which i got this morning, it really cheered me up, and of course the e-mails
    they always give me a laugh too.
    I will try and pop in and post a song tomorrow for the Friday dance.
    Love and big hugs to all on here
    Dianne xxxxxxxxxx



  • Hey, Liz, don't wish the summer away, lol! But, yes, time seems to be flying by as usual.....

    Dianne, sweetheart, glad to see you post, have sent you a p/m.....

    Christine, hope all is well with you and the car too, your boys as well....

    Sue, don't overtire yourself at the gym!

    LizBrad, haven't heard from you, are things ok or has it all got a bit tough?

    to everyone, don't forget to post your tune for 'Dance the c**p out of Cancer' day tomorrow at 3 pm.

    love and hugs from me....

    Moomy