Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Christine, so glad to hear you had a good weekend in spite of the film!

    Lorraine, hi and welcome to the thread, please do come back on Friday and have the 'dance the c**p out of cancer'

    LizB, welcome back, hope that his chemo goes ok and he doesn't feel too bad afterwards,

    Liz, we miss you on here, hope all is going well for you,

    Sue, thank you for everything!

    Dianne, you too are missed, and given hugs from afar....

    love and hugs to all....

    Moomy

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    Hi Christine1 My husband has Mesothelioma prognoisis a few months to a year , first diagnoised late Oct. 2008. no cure for this type of cancer only pallitive care. Chemo given one course one day every three weeks to help improve his quality of life. Chemo went well today no hickups so far. So we shall see what the next couple of days bring. We stay positive and receive great support from this site. He should have started chemo before Xmas but was still loosing weight and was not well enough. Since starting morphine three weeks tomorrow he has been brilliant as the pain is under control. He always sings and whistles so we go with that at a good sign. Look forward to dancing at 3 on Friday. love Lizbrad
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    Hello Lorraine, its lovely to hear from you and I hope your spirit has picked up.

    Being a softy old southerner, I had never heard of the Celtic Connections, so I just had a quick google. It looks like a couple of weeks of really good entertainment. I know you've probably already left for the concert, but I hope you enjoy it, and come back smiling, and with a light heart. I sure it will be well worth dragging yourself out for.

    Lots of good wishes to you, your husband and your 3 lovely boys.
    xxx
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    Hello LizB
    Im was sorry to read about your husbands mesothelioma. I hope the chemo helps him with his symptoms. Its so good to read your comments on how you feel this site has given support....I feel exactly the same way. I think, maybe, I might have curled up in a hole and stayed there, had it not been for the help, support and understanding I have received from the site. Its heartening to hear that your husband is whistling and keeping his spirit strong.

    Wishing you both peace and strength.
    Christine xx
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    hi everyone , a quick hello .
    im in the middle of a four night shift pattern , work has been a bit gruelling and i welcomed the sight of my bed each morning !!!!!
    take care and its lovely to se two new people on andrews tag
    suexxxxxxxxx
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    Good Morning to all friends
    Sue. I hope you had a not to stressful nightshift and are now having a nice cup of tea and getting ready for bed.

    The weather is much brighter today, but still very very cold and ice,so Im fearing for my youngest who is on his way to college on his motorbike. I asked him to phone me when he arrives safely so that my mind can be at rest once again.

    Im just about to do my meditation for the morning, then a small amount of housework before I drive to my mums to take her out for lunch and then to Weston Hospital for her oncology appointment. I'm positive that all will go well for her, and they will send her home feeling happy that all is under control (Im trying to convince myself).

    I probably wont be back until early evening, so I hope, and want to hear how everyones day has gone......If its a good day, then we all need to hear about it, it help to cheer us all up......and if its been a bad day, then we need to hear about it so that we can help and give you some cheer or sympathise. If its been a bit of a ,(nothing much) day, then we need to know, because we can suggest something to fill your day tomorrow.

    Lorraine, I hope you enjoyed your concert last night.

    Sending happy thoughts to everyone

    Christine xxxx
  • Hello to everyone on here, hope that today is a good one for you all, its sunny here at the moment, wonder how long for?! I worked last night, oh yes, I did retire, but daughter dear keeps my brain active by sending me some editing to keep my hand in! At least she is keeping the leetle grey cells up to scratch! ( Hercule Poirot eat your heart out, lol!)

    Moomy

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    Hi Everyone,

    Helen, Im glad your grey matter is being kept in tip top form.
    Liz,its good to see you back on line and I hope your keeping well. Thanks for the E-mails today.

    Consultant said that Mums Leukemia cells are still on the increase to unfortunately they must discuss more chemo, probably to start in a few weeks.......here we go again.

    Im trying to arrange a holiday for just me and hubby (kids will stay home.......Oh my poor little house). Its going to be end of March/early April......2 weeks in Northern India. Going to New Delhi, Agra (Taj Mahal), Varanasi (to see the Hindu Temples on the Ganges) and then to Kathmandu (just because its there, and the Hymalayan scenery)..............miracles do happen, so I'll keep you informed.

    Christine xxxx

  • Christine, all I can say to your plan is, WOW!!!! What a fabulous holiday plan! I do hope you manage it. I'm sure if your family are put on their best behaviour, all will be well, surprising how they rise to it! (and keep the wild parties a secret, lol)

    Sorry your Mum isn't too well, hope they can sort it by some chemo and she doesn't feel too bad.

    Liz, hope you are still well, and the shoulder is behaving!

    Sue, hope that night duty isn't tiring you out too much

    Dianne, sweetheart, miss you, hope all is ok

    LizB, hope that chemo hasn't tired your man too much

    anyone else, hi and hope your day is panning out ok, forgive my brain cell not remembering names, in spite of our daughter trying to give it exercise, lol!

    Moomy

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    Hi everyone, Well husband had chemo 1st session on Monday this week and has been terrific , no sideffects at all so far apart from his sugar levels are up but we did expect that as he is diabetic and we were warned that the chemo would play havoc with his diabetis. We can`t believe how well he is , loads of energy not tired at all we are waiting until the 7 to l4 days benchmark and see how he is once his bloods start to drop.

    Your planned holiday sounds very nice Christine1 , My parents were married in India during the 2nd world war as my dad was serving out there and mum travelled out so they could be married. How she got travel permits etc. during that time is amazing. They always wanted to go back to visit, by the time they could afford it my dad was too ill to travel that far. Enjoy the wonderful sights and then you can share it with us when you return. I know it isn`t for a few weeks yet, but it gives you something to look forward to.

    Hope everyone has a good dance on Friday at 3. With all the rain we have had lately my music choice would have to be the music from Riverdance where they are all in the long line, with their feet , ankles, and legs going in different directions. Hate to think what state I`ll be in if I watch the dvd of it while I dance and try to copy!!!!!!!!! Mind boggles!!!!!!!! Love Lizbrad,