Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    To all the lovely people who have posted on this thread. Your friendship during 2008 has meant so much to me.

    I wish you all

    12 months of Peace

    52 weeks of happiness

    365 days of joy

    8760 hours of smiles

    525600 minutes of good luck

    31536000 seconds of love

    A happy New year to everyone!!!!!!

    Christine
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    Happy New Year everyone.
    Today at 3pm Im going to dance/sway for everyone in the whole world. My song is going to be Mull of Kintyre as it quite appropriate for the weather we have today. (Mist rolling in over the hills ect.)
    Loads of love and millions of blessings to everyone.
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  • My song for today, ( a bit late) is Spring from Vivaldi's Four Seasons, will be thinking of everyone while it is playing....

    Moomy

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    Good evening friends.
    Everyone has been very quiet lately. I hope its because you are all fine and busily getting on with things.

    I sneezed again! and I think another couple of ribs have gone. Damn!, I was just starting to think that my other broken rib was feeling slightly better. Im taking all the painkillers I can find, but not much is touching it at the moment. I'll have to phone the docs in the morning and ask his advice. Im still waiting for my appointment date for a bone scan, so I'll ask them to make it a bit more urgent.

    Im feeling quite (very) usless at the moment. All I can do is sit on the sofa, watch TV and play with my laptop......which does'nt make me feel a useful member of the family, let alone a useful member of society. My father-in-laws funeral is on Thursday 8th and I need to be able to attend and support my husband and children without being an added burden to them. Im praying that I will be able to do this.

    I've kept an eye on the Mac site over the last couple of weeks but found it quite hard to cope with reading that so many people have been having such a difficult time over the Christmas/New Year period. I send my love and sympathies to everyone going through the worst of times at the moment.

    Love to all.
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    Hello everyone,

    Liz, I hope your physio went well today and that your shoulder is not aching to much after the physio.
    Moomy, Ive been keeping a eye out for you. I hope you and your whole family as staying as well as possible. I have seen you posting on the Newbie thread......its lovely to know that you are taking the time to help welcome others to the site. I know from personal experience how hard it can be to make that first post, and how greatful I was to receive a quick, supportive and sympathetic response. Being a bit nieve as to how these site work, I thought that the response I received was from a trained and paid professional. I rememeber how humbled I felt when I discovered that the person on the other end of my computer screen was just another human being, with their own problems life had thrown their way, but they were still taking time to help me in my time of need.

    Dianne, I know you are going through an extra tough time at the moment as you are dealing with those memories of last year at this time. I want you to know that all your friends on this site are thinking of you and wishing you strength for the immediate future and wishing you happier times ahead.

    Sue and Jules, Im thinking of you too and hoping that your both well and not working to hard.

    I hope Im not going on unnecessarily. Unfortunately I made the mistake of reading another thread that was complaining about people using the site purely as a diary/journal or for a private winge, which I must admit to being guilty of sometimes, I thought thats what it was for.....naughty me! And berating people who hand out blessings to the masses.......dont know what that means. so:
    A thousand good blessings to everyone!

    Hear you all soon.......and anyone else who wants to say hi, or just wants to talk.

    Christine.
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    Hi Christine

    I have er semi caught up - well ish.......... well actually not but have got to the 'what the heck....!' stage, so I realised I have sorely neglected friends including you, so for that I am sorry. However, please dont feel useless because you are far from that!

    I am sorry about the sore and broken ribs, such a worry for you without mentioning the pain factor. As Liz said I hope you get that scan soonest.

    Liz again my apologies for neglecting you, I hope this year is by far better for you. xxxx

    And still we wait for snow............. ! it is cold here in Kent water has frozen on the animals water buckets so that will be an issue before too much longer as will getting the horses exercised as well, but it will get sorted.
    ooops sorry folks........!

    j xxxxxxxxxx
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    Hi Juls.
    We have had similar weather........very very cold but no snow. It seems that all areas around us have had the pleasure snow but we dont get it. I think its because we live in the shadow of the Mendips which give us our own micro climate .
    Its good to hear that your busy, although I dont envy you having to be out exercising the horses in this weather. BRRRRRRRRRRR.

    Stay well.
    Christine xxx
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    Hello Liz, Its good to hear from you, and to know that your physio went well. I hope you soon get back into the swing of things.
    You've been very quity lately......I hope your feeling alright in yourself. I know the move from Germany hasn't been easy.
    Love
    Christine xxxx
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    Ive been visiting the other Mac Site. The one thats called 'What Now?'. I found it to be very friendly and they have a live chat room which is quite addictive but a bit fast and furious for me to keep up wth, but there are some lovely ladies and gents on there.
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    hi to all of you .

    yes i have been very busy these past few weeks , and lots of'stuff' to deal with .......unfortunately my reaction in recent months is to stay away from the site rather than open up and share ......dont know why i do that but its easier to do that than face things .

    anyaway im ok 'ish and its a day at a time in the way im coping at the moment .



    much love to you all

    suexxxxxx