Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    hi all .
    sorry havent been round much .
    its been a hard time these past few days , it was the anniversary of my divorce yesterday (8 years) and whilst i am ok about the divorce it reminded me of my daughters and the past 8 years of not seing them .

    plus i havent seen my friend for weeks , its a personal thing , cant explain here , but i cant face her her at the moment , i dont feel strong enough to 'cope' with the backlash i get every time i go .

    i didnt dance today , swayed instead , i attended a special carol concert that my clients performed enacting the nativity in their own way and playing instruments in their own way to .............it made christmas seem special watching the non-verbal clients act out their version of a very special story ........the only 'funny' bit was watching a young man 'fling' baby jesus into the manger and then another client , completely oblivious and singing his own song, as all around him sang 'silent night '...................must admit 'away in a manger ' brought tears to my eyes ' as it always does .


    a very blessed and peaceful christmas to all of you .

    ( liz , thanks for the card )

    suexxxxxxxxxxx
  • Sue, ((((((((((((((big hugs)))))))))))))))), you sound as though you need them.....

    Hello to you all, I did dance but it was while I was doing the cleaning, so didn't have a song on at the time (wouldn't have heard it, lol) , vacuuming with a wiggle! love and hugs to you all.....

    Moomy

  • Hello to you all, hope today is good for you, Christine, Liz, Sue, Dianne and anyone else on the thread....love and hugs

    Moomy

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    Just logged on, so hello and goodnight Liz, sweet dreams xxxxxxxxx
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    hi all , its been a funny old day .
    started off with a flat tyre on my car , where is a man when you need one !!!!!, this guy in a rac van stopped and did it for me ....im not even a member !!!!!...he must have took pity on my helpless female look at the time !!!

    then i went xmas food shopping , getting a parking space was 'fun' !!!!, once inside the supermarket , mayhem +++++++

    anyway , all done !!!!

    im off out soon to see my friend , my other friend is coming with ....safety in numbers !!!.....sorry i know i am being glib , but i cant take the snappiness and shortness directed at me anymore ..........i have bought her some lovely pink roses and pink and white freesias ...............i havent been for weeks , we have kept in touch by phone and text , so the evening should be interesting or awkward !!!!

    love to everybody
    suexxxxxxxxxx
  • Dear Sue, hope it isn't as bad as you fear, you have been such a good friend to her....

    Yes, I too did some food shopping today, there were folk there looking as though they expected there to be a siege! Trolleys all overflowing!

    Christine, Dianne, Liz, Sue, love and hugs to you all, hope things are as ok as possible....

    Moomy

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    Hello everyone,
    I hope your all coping with the added stresses of the season.

    Sorry I've not been around much, but I've been thinking of you all.

    My rib is still hurting and Im waiting for an appointment to come through for a bone scan. Doc wants to find out why my bones are breaking so easily. I think (hope) its due to the double dose of radiotherapy I've had to my chest area. The oncologist did warn me that this might happen.

    Also, sadly, my father-in-law died at 1.30am this morning so I've not had much sleep. Roamed around the supermarket wondering why I was there.....just in a bit of a daze at the moment. Paul and the children are coping really well at the moment. I think Paul is running on auto pilot trying to sort out solicitors and funeral arrangements, and phoning friends and relations ect ect.

    Lots of love to everyone.
    Christine.
    xx
  • Christine, so sorry to hear that news, poor Paul, and the children too, my condolences to all

    Moomy

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    Hi Christine

    I am sorry to hear that your father in law has apssed away. Please accept my condolences for you and your family.

    j
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    christine ....sending you my deepest sympathy for your loss , wishing 'peace' for you and your family at this time .



    moomy ......the evening went very well thank you , just what the docter ordered .

    my friend is now on morphine patches and it is helping her considerably . my friend who went with me brought her two young children , so that lightened the tension and lots of laughs at the antics of the 2 year old chasing the dog around the living room .

    the 'ice' has been broken now and any awkwardness i was feeling has gone .......it was easier to stay away than go ....i will admit to having been stressed these past few months with personal stuff at work and home , and i couldnt cope with extra stress ...happily that is now water under the bridge .



    on a different note .........i would like to mention andrew ....i hope his family still read his thread and see how we are all keeping it going in his memory ...........i miss him so much and i hope they have a special xmas and remember him and the good times /laughs he gave to so many in his own inimitable style ....he was a very special friend /man .



    suexxxxxxxxxxx