Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    Hi Christine

    I'm always up early - I'm an early bird (though I've not yet caught that worm!!) rather than a night owl!!! I enjoy walking my dog before anyone else is around - she's not the friendliest creature so I feel safe in letting her run around and stretch her legs now before the park gets busy!!!

    And I don't think you're attention seeking at all - we all have our cares and worries and it's good to have somewhere to offload them without that '..oh lord here we go again..' feeling that you get sometimes from family and friends. Everyone around us does their best to understand but if they've not been there they don't know what it's like!!!! Here we're all in pretty much the same boat (either as carers or patients) and can offer support, love and hugs (even if only cyber-hugs) and we feel cossetted again and able to get on with our lives without falling apart!!! I must admit that I have a 'listening angel' too - a counsellor - who is wonderful and just like coming on here I feel that I can say anything to her and not be judged!!!

    Hope you now feel that you can give your family a big hug to start their day off right??

    Love and hugs

    Dot xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

  • morning, all...Holly-dog fed, walked, played with and now she's stretched out snoozing! it was supposed to be cloudy today but here it's sunny.....


    love and hugs to you all.....

    Moomy

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    Hi Helen

    I see you've got all the sun again!! We've got clouds - including yours I think - and rain!!!!

    Love and hugs

    Dot xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



  • Dot, sorry if we've got your sun! Didn't mean to pinch it......

    Moomy

  • Liz, sorry your Mum isn't too good, but you do sound ok, it's great to see that! we are fine, and the weather looks like it'll clear up.....love and hugs.....

    Moomy

  • FormerMember
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    Morning Liz and everyone

    Hope you all have a good day today and that the sun shines for you.....

    Love and hugs to everyone

    Dot xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    Morning everyone,
    Well the weather has been fine for the last couple of days now its pouring
    again, Liz, glad you are starting to feel better, and i hope your mum is ok.
    Love and hugs to all on here
    Dianne xxxxxxxxxxx
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    morning to everyone .

    a very dull grey day here , but i will ignore it and plod on !!!!

    i am determined its a 'me' day today ...so its devoted to my hobbies !!!!

    this afternoon im taking my fella to the docs , apart from that , a 'chill'day !!!



    suexxxxxxxxxx

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    i saw my daughter and baby grandaughter today whilst i was at the docters , she turned away and walked out when she saw me ............cant even begin to tell you how i feel .

    its 8 years since my divorce and my daughters chose to have nothing to do with me , i deal with it ok normally but ever so often something chinks at the armour , today was one of those days

    suexx

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    Sue, that must have been so upsetting for you love
    ((((((((((((((((((((BIG HUGS))))))))))))))))))))
    Dianne xxxxxxxxxxx