Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    liz .

    good to 'see' you on here , im so sorry you are still not sleeping .my ex mother in law used to have panic attacks and i remember her telling me how scary they were .

    dont know if this helps but she was advised to have a brown paper bag at hand and when she was having an 'attack' to put it over her nose and mouth and breathe in and out slowly , apparently the physiology of it is to do with carbon dioxide levels ...it helped the hyperventilating .
    the other thing she had was counselling to help with her feelings .

    from what you have said , it all stems back to your experience following your surgery ...i hope you get 'the help' you need for this sweetie as it must be horrible for you to go through this .

    im always here for you liz , you are a good friend and i miss you here .
    big hug
    suexxxxxxxxx

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    hello to everyone .

    its a beautiful sunny day here , my washing is on the line , my cats are snoozing as is my fella .......very peaceful here .

    im sorting out my cross stitch stuff , having a lovely time planning some projects to do , i havent touched it properly for over a year with studying etc.... but now i finally got some time for 'me' stuff .

    then im going to write some letters , isnt it a shame with e-mails now that 'snail'mail as my friend calls the written letter is a 'lost art' .

    i still get a lovely feeling when a letter that isnt a bill comes in the post for me .

    anyway that should take care of a few hours and then im going to have a snooze , im back at work tonight .

    have a lovely day everyone
    suexxxxxxxxxx

  • Sue, it's so great to see that you are enjoying life better again now......it was sunny here and I got a good load of washing dry outside, always smells good.....now the clouds are coming over, it makes me feel virtuous! love and hugs to all on here....

    Moomy

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    hi helen .

    yes i am feeling so much better , its like a dark cloud has lifted from over me , thats the best way to descibe how i have been feeling all these weeks .



    im getting my choice in early for tomorrow at 3 p.m., heard it on the radio today , i was singing alondg and dancing :-



    ' K.C.&THE SUNSHINE BAND 'GIVE IT UP' '

    'everybody wants you , everybody wants your love ,i'd just like to make you mine oh mine ...na na na na na na , baby give it up , give it up '.....



    love it !!!!



    suexxxxxxxxxxxx

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    Morning everyone,
    Christine, my daughter is 29, but she looks very young (must get it from me)
    when i was waiting at the window to let her in, it took me back to her teenage
    years when she was late home, and i would stand at the window looking for
    her, haha!
    Well my song for today is Bill Withers, Lean on me, for Andrew, Liz, Daz, and
    everybody else who needs it,
    Its pouring here, but hope the sun is shining for you all, and you have a good day
    Dianne xxxxxxxxxxx
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    Hi All,

    Hope you dont mind me gate crashing your thread with my record choice for 3pm today.

    just wanted to say my record for Bob is

    Everytime we Touch - Cascade (slow version) - we getting a bit old for the dance version!!

    Take Care all,

    Linda



  • FormerMember
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    Hi Linda,
    You cant gate crash this thread because the gate is always open and everyone is welcome.
    Enjoy your dance today, I hope it works wonders for you and your husband.
    Luv
    Christine.
    xx
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    Hi Linda,
    You cant gate crash this thread because the gate is always open and everyone is welcome.
    Enjoy your dance today, I hope it works wonders for you and your husband.
    Luv
    Christine.
    xx
    Whoops, sorry, posted twice and I dont know how to remove it.
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    Sorry, but my song this week is going to be the same as last week, I just love it! even though it gives me a sore throat from screaming out the words whilst dancing. Looks and sounds like a bad X factor audition.
    My song is: 'All Summer Long' by Kid Rock.
    Today Im dancing for my dear Mum whos having her 77th birthday tomorrow and has been fighting NH Lymphoma for the last 18 months, Im sure she wont mind me telling everyone that, she's one tough, and very beautiful bird.
    Love you mum,
    Happy Birthday.
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    Love and Hugs to you Liz.