Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    Andy technology my business so ask away for advice.

    Ebay you should find a second hand EOS canon at good money. Also give me an address my camera advice costs home made ice cream.

    Holidays, mmmm down to the docs now. If they cant list me for 3 weeks then Ill be off again. And dont spend 9k on a watch they only tell the time. Nolw photography is expensive once you in to it.


    Look on facebook if you use it. Darren Walton. I have lots of pics on there.

    If you really serious then I will guide u through a good set up. I only spent 3K and its good. Who needs a watch

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    You're right about the watch. it was going to be an impulse buy anyway and I goot over it - lol.

    The camera on the other hand was recommended in Which as a good starter model, so its not so much the actual camera as the software for the laptop to make the most out of any pics I take. So when I've done the photo taking I will be asking you about the stuff I would be best with on the computer to "tidy" stuff up and improve the shots I have taken etc.

    So if thats ok with you when I get back from the portugal hols I will be asking for advice then so that when I do the heli ride in july/august time I can make the most of those shots etc.

    Also when I buy the camera, this week sometime, will I need any additional equipment now i.e. different lenses than the one that comes with it etc?

    Andrew
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    Andy whats your budget?

    Its a big decider.



    Canon are dropping the 40D body to 499 and a good lens would be the 17-85mm IS USM. You will prob find a kit bundled on ebay for 599.

    That lens would cover most situations. If you want long zoom then we chat again on top of this.

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    I was going to go into Jessops tomorrow or wednesday to get the camera, I read in Which that the lense magnificatiion is the most important part rather than how many pixels it has and how much magnification they can manage as they can distort the edges of photos.

    If we get the whale wacthing then what I don't want is some pic of a whale fluke taking up 10% in the midst of 90% watery background if you see what i mean. So i want to be able to zoom in as far as possible without loosing picture quality.

    My budget is about £600 in total for camera and lense(s). I also want it to be abke to just take normal snaps, I will be taking my small digital camera as well but don't want to be carrying both about with me all then time,

    Does that sound reasonable or am I asking too much of one camera for that price range?

    Andrew
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    look for a deall on a 400d body with a sigma 28-135 ish. should be in your budget and would give great results.

    i just sold a 400d with a canon 28-135 on ebay for 450. theres a deal to be had out there.
    i might be able to come over shopping wednesday.
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    I can wait until wednesday I'm sure!

    Let me know tomorrow morning if you can, it would be wise to have someone who knwos whatbthey are doing - can't hurt anyway - lol -

    can meet somewhere in Leeds, maybe have lunch and buy a camera as well as any peripheral stuff needed, thats if you would like to do that!

    Anyway just klet me know and we can arrange details.

    Andrew
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    I cant see a prob.



    My number is 07933 585310 text to sort.



    Daz

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    oops just realised everybody now got my mobile.

    Girls please refrain from the saucy texts after midnight. How would I cope.
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    It usually takes me until mid morning to know whether or not my back is up to going out at all so I will text you on weds morning to let you know whether or not I am in a fit state to do anything, although this last couple of days have been ok so shouid be good I hope!

    So, with some luck, will see you on weds.

    Right off to bed now before I fall off this stool in the kitchen,

    see yuo soon,

    Andrew
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    I could always pick you up. if traveliing a prob.

    Good night mate