Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    Never heard of Joan Aramatrading?

    Can't belive it - lol - she was famous in the late 70's still sells records and tours but doesn't have hits anymore.

    try "Love and Affection" - that was her biggest hit and is a really nice song in a kind of sad way, a song for unrequited love think.

    I still have Joe Walsh on here - lol

    Andrew
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4i-cOv69tw

    this is my kind of laid back tune - something from the 70's but re-worked for the 00's and old Eric is good enough to play it live still - can't be beaten not for my money anyway).

    i am sure you will like this one - it seems tailor made for your tastes. Let me know and I can raid my brain for more stuff - lol

    Andrew
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    Boston-More Than A Feeling

    you must like this one surely

    Andrew
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    these then follow quite nicely

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=047jbfCE4p8&feature=related


    then this one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKg4g9zMeHI&feature=related

    then the best for last

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZSWAkJ3h8E&feature=related

    now that becomes a great monday afternoon soundtrack.

    well it does for me anyway - if you are listening to andyrhfm then please enjoy!!

    Cheers all (especially betty/liz)

    Andrew
    xx
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    Hi, I think i am now on a bit of a Pink Floyd trip - the last shortcut i sent was my fave track of theirs - it was mentioned yesterday I think.

    Also the morphine has now kicked in fully so i am becoming a bit more mellow rightnow and the pain is subsiding more -gosh it feels good not to hurt anymore!!

    Bow Down to morphine!!

    Andrew
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    hi andrew & liz,
    great taste in music, but i have to say i'm too young to remember
    most of them lol, and andrew i'm so glad morphine is kicking in
    and your pain is starting to go away
    dianne xx
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    The track was written about Syd Barrett who started the group in the first place. He went a bit mad and then when he was getting it all back together a couple of years ago sadly died.

    Shame but at least there is all this music about to celebrate his life.

    Still a great and beautiful piece of music.

    Andrew
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    They get calmer after that promise - those tracks just seemed to follow a path in my mind - the Led Zep one is a standout piece but the pink Floyd one can't be beaten. i thought that the Eric Clapton and Boston track were pretty laid back and calm though.

    Andrew
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    Hi Dianne,

    nice to see you there, whta have you been up to and where have you been hiding, don;t seem to have seen you for a while - or have i just missed you whilst suffering" and doping myslef up - lol

    Andrew

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90u1IV4dw8o

    this is currently on - and very mellow it is too
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    hi andrew,
    nothing exiting, just been doing bit of shopping today, did
    speak to you briefly this morning, you cant be that doped up
    because you got my name right lol, glad you are feeling a
    bit better
    dianne xx