Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    Thats ok, driving is the part I like! if I can move I can drive fine, we'll sort something out I am sure. So see you wednesday, have a good night yourself.

    Cheers

    Andrew

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    Goor morning Liz,

    even though I will have missed you by now! I am doing my back physio at the moment, luckily it only consists if straightening then releasing my back to try and get rid of the spinal bulge that has appeared since all my muscles wasted away.

    Because I haven't done ant excercise for 7 months now my back, thigh, stomach and core muscles have all gone to seed so I have excercises foe each of them to do during the day at home.Then I have stretching excescises to do as well to stop them gettign cramps. I spread them through the day but the back ones need changing as they cause alot of pain. I am due to speak to physio today to chane them to ones with less impact on my lower spine if we can.

    Anyway best of luck and we catch up later no doubt.

    Morning anyone else about, sun is shining and the birds are singing, seems like a loveky day so if it stays this way I mill do my excercises and then go for a drive around with my roof down - lol -

    Best to you all,

    Andrew
    xx
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    I found this on youtube, its a fave song of mine but the video is of someone driving around Sheffiekd at night and I liked it because I used to work there and recognise some of the places so eknjoy a great song and a nightime view of the city where I once worked!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP3eHMWFEkM

    Andrew
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    Some people will love or hate this one, I think his voice is just so unusual and the lyrics so poignant! Its one of my funeral songs and , of course, dedicated to my sister for all she has done for me.

    I'm not being morbid here by the way its just being prepared, I have all my instructions written out so there are no worries for anyone to arrange things and in any case I am at stage T4 M2 with the cancer. I like to have everything boxed off and done.

    Music is a big part of my life and will be a big part of my saying goodbye! Though I do plan on being here a few years yet - lol - I have my 50th birthday planned as well, thats going to be in the Atlantic coast of Spain at Biarritz.

    Anyway the point of this was the song not me and his very unusual voice, see what you think -:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vskbBZ1h6ls

    Andrew
    xx

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    and this song I used to dace about to at All Nighters when I was young and could still do that sort of thing, a dancab le ditty with a warning chorus about the nature of snakes? or is there a hidden meaning - you decide - lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_ZBqpEUbik

    Andrew
    xx
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    Its really great to hear a person who not only sings in her own style but writes the sings and can perform them live and in tune. It just doesn't happen that often does it?

    Well here's one and I think she is just great!

    I have bought the album and can tell you - go get it because its very very good.

    This is her singing live just to show she can if you didn't belive me - lol -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkkmQNA_aRs

    I really hope you enjoy and go get the album!!!! I think she will around for a long time with this talent.

    Andrew
    xx






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    Its a bit like the Mary Celeste on here today - no-one about at all.

    My cleaner is coming soon and then the Boiler Service man, once the boiler is done I am off ton the opticians in town and may be tempted to go to Harvey Nicks to get some new stuff for the hols, you never know - lol -

    So, very soon, I will be logging off to get my tasks for the day done and dusted, i will be back on again later just to see if everyone is OK and feeling good!

    So if I miss you 'till later have a great day and we will catch up later on.




    Well thats me for the day, dressed, clothes shopping and then optician (Iknow its the wrong way round for the last two but can't be bothered to change them - lol - ).

    Have a good one,

    Andrew
    xx
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    Hi Liz,

    yes still here, boiler man has just arrived so will be here for next 30 to 45 minutes then will be gone.

    I have spoken to my physio this morning to change the excercises for the back to something less painful as they caused me no end of triuble at the end of last week! he has agreed and next week I am going in on tuesday to learn some new ones aqnd in the meantime will do the ones that are ok and miss the others out!

    What plans have you got for the rest of the day?

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    I did dend the email addy buut I will do it again now so you have it - hang on a mo :-

    andrewhorner23@aol.com

    thats the msn as well if you want that too.

    Andrew
    x
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    Just have to go down to the garage to let the boiler man loos on the gas meter so will be gone for a few minutes - won't be too long I hope - lol -.