Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    Hi mines a red one too please!

    Music I like most things apart from country and western, just not me, but anything else is good!

    Dianne Nathan has lived with us all his life, I was there when he was born and had the very first cuddle!! He is my angel! Sadly Gemma and Nathan's dad split just a very short time before he arrived. So naturally they came home.
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    thank you liz ......might play that for paul , put a smile on his face !!!!
    right, im being very industrious ,im cooking a late evening meal , and with the left over stalks from the asparagus im going to make some soup and freeze it .
    in my youth !!!!........i loved the osmonds especially 'crazy horses'...hard to believe they are celibrating 50 years in the business this year , and i also used to adore david cassidy and a song called 'cherish' ...one of his early ones ..happy memories of days gone by ...ho hum !!!!
    suexxxxxxxxx
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    juls thats why i asked, because my 9 year old grandson lived
    with us for four years, i was there when he was born, just me and
    my daughter , you cant explain emotions can you? she split from
    his dad too, i have another grandson who i love dearly, but will
    always have special bond with him
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    i agree sue, but can you believe how old "little donny osmond"
    looks now?
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    Hi Diane that is exactly it, we have two other grand children but Nathan will always have a special place and he knows this, not in an arrogant way but totally confident and secure.
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    You can't explain the different levelof emotional attachment with them when they have been with you every day of their life, and you know every expression, mood, gesture, all.

    It's different also to the relationship you have with your own children as well, don't you agree?
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    I met Donny Osmond some time ago, via a friend, he had just arrived in England as his son was undertaking his mission for their church.

    He looks just as good in real life and just as young!
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    juls i totally agree, thats why i worry about him now, i know my
    daughter loves him, but me and his grandad were the two who
    were always there for him
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    juls i envy you meeting him !!!! and dianne they remind me so much of my youth .....happy days !!!!
    liz thank you chuck !!!!
    right the meal is ready , so i will say bye and see you all tomorrow .

    sleep well everyone and pleasant dreams .
    love
    suexxxxxxxxxxx
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    Sue he is a truly nice genuine person no frilly, just a waht you see is what you get!!

    Yes Dianne Like you and your hubby, We have had so much contact and input into helping raise Nathan , I think I will always worry and fret over him, perhaps more than Gemma, don't get me wrong she loves him, but we fuss!!! lol