Running out of veins....

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When I had day surgery two weeks  two ago, the cannula was not put in until after I had had the general anaesthetic. I came round, the back of my  my left hand,  where it  was inserted, started to hurt like hell.  I eventually got them to remove it. Over the next week the whole of the back of my hand turned black with  a massive bruise and in particular two smaller bruises appeared over the back of my wrist itself,where  the cannula was. I have never had a problem with my veins and   can only  suppose the veins  collapsed or blew. Bruising has gone down and nothing hurts now but no large veins are visible on the outside back of my left wrist at present. Can see some faint small ones.  Last Friday they  took some blood for tests, from the inside of my right elbow.

Yesterday, when I had my CT scan, they were not able to fit a cannula in the veins on the back of my left wrist to insert the dye and  I asked the lead nurse about what might have happened. She just shrugged. They were running late and keen to get  on.  They just inserted the needle  for the dye inside my left elbow, where I now have a large purple bruise.

Anyknow anything about blown veins in here.? Do they heal? I am not sure what they will do for inserting the dye for the MRI  scan  due in next couple of days.Or for the hysterectomy which i assume is coming down the track at present. Maybe I could go round to my GPs and find out from the practice nurses what might have happened.

  • HI ,

    My elbow veins have always been used for the cannula in all my scans and blood tests.  They don't seem to be bothered about any bruising from previous insertions.  In fact when I asked whether they would use the other arm the phlebotomist laughed and said " Why would you want a bruise on both arms?"

    You should be OK for the MRI in your arm rather than your hand .

    XXXX

    Anne

    (Class of 2015!)

  • Hi nightingale,

    I was full of bruises after all the blood tests, cannulas, and injections after the operation. I kind of gave up with how I looked!! It all healed up eventually.

    I have to have a yearly blood test and whoever I see they always have trouble finding a vein. Apparently I have tiny veins!! Quite often they  try one arm, then go to the other, and I end up with a plaster on each arm for 2 tubefuls!! XXXXX

  • These days I don't get many compliments so I was quite taken aback to be told I had "nice" veins.   So at least the vampires like me!! .

    I still get bruises though.

    XXXX

    Anne

    (Class of 2015!)

  • Hi nightingale, 

    they always struggle to get a vein from me but they always manage, I've had cannulas in my hand, on the corner of my wrist, on my arm. When they have trouble they usually get a good phlebotomist or an anaesthetist. I wouldn't worry too much about it. I bruise every time they put one in or take bloods.

    xxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Hi Nightingale

    Sorry I sore your post and popped across to add to it.

    Sorry you are having trouble with your veins. Mine were a pain before treatment and are pretty rubbish now. I am told they will improve. I have had lines in all sorts of places. Hands, elbows, side of the elbow the wrist and even the foot!

    I progressed from nurses, to chemotherapy nurses with heat pads and vein finders, phlebotomists to anaesthetist with ultrasounds and when they were all missing I was encouraged to get a portacath fitted. Some have picc lines. 

    The sore feeling may well of been the vein tissuing and it really is sore when that happens and like you I come up with huge bruises. It's not fun.

    Speak to your team and see what they suggest going forward.

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    After many MRI and Ct scans  with contrast dyes, and GA's  none of which were Cancer related but spine and Hips I never had a bruise. Until  my hysterectomy, my goodness my arm was so bruised, so much so that the day after the Nurse and Doctor both commented . It is to do with the skill of who is taking the blood, or inserting the canula I'm afraid. When the trainee doctor put in the canula for my GA I said straight away, well you haven't done that right have you ? He just looked at me panic stricken ! I said just put me to sleep please. When a nurse did my chemo she missed my vein and went into the soft tissue surrounding it, it hurt like hell. But the good thing is within a week or so they healed ! I only ever trust someone who gets it right first time and its usually someone highly skilled to be honest. I wouldn't let a doctor near me  they don't do it often enough ! But then again I suppose they have to practice and learn.

    LC

  • When I had the GA for my day surgery, they rubbed some pain killing gel in the back of my hand.  I asked if I could have some yesterday and was told it is only available in operating theatres.