So Worried - anyone got any positive outcomes for womb cancer to relate ?

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I have already posted here that my diagnosis last week with level 3 endometrial cancer knocked me for six.

I  had been diagnosed with 2 uterine polyps in the summer and had them removed in Day Surgery two weeks ago. (Had to get my blood pressure down first).  And it seems everyone involved including the  sinologer who did the TVUS and Gynae registrar who reviewed it, did  not see any sign of tumors and thought it would be a routine removal. Even when I had my day surgery, the surgeon told me it had been successful. Then I got called in urgently to Gynae on Friday, to see a rather harassed consultant,  who told me they had not in fact removed  all the tumour as it was firmly attached  to  my womb and a biopsy of it had found  level 3 cancerous cells.

He said was not be too concerned about the level  as almost all uterine cancer is caught early and is slow growing. He did not say what kind of cancer it was - and I find it very frustrating that no one has at any stage showed me any scans. The consultant said he was referring me  to the specialist cancer unit in another hospital up the road  where they have a full range of facilities and  I should have hysterectomy  with laparoscopic surgery. He said all being well that I would lonly need a hysterectomy and I would be back home in 48 hours.( Later after he left the nurse said it is in fact a part laparoscopic part vaginal hysterectomy they do there..) He said I would be up and about as normal by the end of November.

My ssonwho was with me, asked if I would need further treatment like radition or chemo and he rather dodged the question and said it would depend on the team. But from accounts here it looks like I will as it is level 3 cancer. That seems to make it more serious despite what the consultant said

The thing is I have had a series of bladder and vaginal bleeding issues since early summer which were attributed to a trapped kidney stone. The possibility I might have womb never emerged. Now I  do not know what to think. What if it was all cancer related all a!ong? Maybe  it is further advanced than they think?. After all I am in the 5% whose  polyp turns out to be cancerous. And I was diagnosed with 2 large ones by the TVUS.

On top of that I looked up the hospital I am being referred to and ,despite the consultant's assurances, it is in a group of seven which is one of the lowest performing in the country for cancer treatment. My friend went in to another one in the same group earlier this year, with a brain tumour and picked up e coli while waiting for radiation therapy and was then discharged without further treatment or any trearment plan.  He lasted 6 weeks after diagnosis. None of that has made me feel any better about the future. I have two adorable grand children and this time last week I was expecting to see them grow up. Now I just don't know. I can't go and talk to my GP all appointments are solidly booked weeks in advance . 

The only staws I am c!utching at present are that the polyp which turned out to be cancerous was the only thing the sonogapher found after a a long probe in my TVUS and when they were investigating me for kidney stones in the summer I had a CT scan of my kidneys urether and bladder which was c!ear.  So I am hoping that means the cancer has not spread that far but with my luck at present who knows?. I mentioned the CT scan to the consultant and he dismissed it as irrelevant saying it only covered the stomach.

So I am feeling very low about what comes next. This time last week I was feeling optimistic about the future. Now,?

Has anyone been diagnosed with cancer level 3 and stage 2 and made a good recovery? I am starting to feel the odds are running against me.i should like to read some positive outcomes.

T

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  • Hi Nightingale,

    I fully understand how you are feeling. Whereas I have no experience of Stage 3 cancer, I've a lot of experience with cancer. When my husband was diagnosed with throat cancer 13 years ago, I could only think that my grand dad died with exactly the same complaint some years previously. But, My Grandad had no radiotherapy. It had not been invented! My husband had 2 patches of cancer which, had they been joined up would have been classed as  Stage 4.

    What I am trying to say is that treatments have advanced so much, and cancer is not the killer it used to be. When I was a child you got cancer and you were more or less written off. Not so, now. I know more people who have survived it than haven't. And endometrial cancer is one of the most successful to treat, bear in mind.

    My  Consultant was very non-committal about my outcome until AFTER the operation and she had all the results in, so don't read too much into that.   XXXXXX 

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    FormerMember

    Hello

    I havent been a member long but i can tell you i also had just a polyp had it removed to be told whilst on holiday in italy that it was  cancer

    I got home having had a very stressful week to a ct scan and consultant to be told i need a hysterectomy  but thats all

    Op over and recovering well to be told no its a stage 3 grade 1a and i need rediotherapy 25 sessions planning scan tomorrow because there was cancer cells in the blood vessels they didnt remove my lymph nodes

    So changed all the way and very worrying i must say

    But i have to say the doctors on it quick and all done quick

    And they have told me not to worry it was slow growing 

    So trying not to but very hard not to

    Had lovely advice from the girls on here i am sure they will be on to avise you more than i can

    But do try not to worry and maybe try to speak to your nurse about your fears and treatment

    I have 2 grandchildren also

    As far as your doctor insist its an emergency and you must see them

    Best wishes

    Lynne

  • Hello All your fears and negative thoughts are a normal reaction to what you're going through. I was diagnosed in 2016 and like you the first thing I was told was that I had a high grade type, then they dropped in that I had an aggressive type (one of the serous ones). My eldest daughter had just announced her engagement and I spent a long time worrying about whether I'd see her get married. To be really honest I wondered if I'd see that Christmas, let alone anything else. Well, yes, I saw that Christmas, albeit between chemo appointments, and yes, I saw my daughter get married last year (2018) and we had the most wonderful day. Earlier this year my youngest daughter announced her engagement. There's no date yet but I'm most  definitely hoping to be there when she finally walks down the aisle.

    My team have always been realistic - I know that for my type of cancer the chances of recurrence are high. I've also been told that if it comes back then it'll probably be treatable but probably not curable. That took some processing. The team have always done everything they can to encourage me to have a positive outlook as I went through treatment and to have things to look forward to. When my gynae-onc told me I needed further treatment I told him I had every intention of still being here and getting the all clear at the magic 5years post treatment mark. I'm currently 21/2years on from treatment and so far so good. Yes I have some niggles, yes I have some minor lingering side effects from treatment and yes I sometimes have rubbish days when the "what ifs" rear their ugly heads, but the good days definitely outnumber the bad. I've made changes, done new things and have lots of things I still want to do. There are lots of ladies on here who can share some very inspiring stories. I'm sure they'll be along soon to encourage you

    . It takes time to deal with a cancer diagnosis and it's still very early days for you. Be kind to yourself, just as you would be to your best friend if she were going through this. I do believe a positive outlook can help you to deal with this. That's not to say you should deny your feelings, - rather that learning how to own and deal with the feelings is worth the effort. All the good things that were in your life up to the point of your diagnosis are still there, it's just that they can be a bit harder to see in these emotional early days.  hope that in time you'll feel the gloominess and the dark move away and that you'll be able to move into a place where you can move forward in confidence and hope. Where there is life and love there is hope. Gentle hugs x

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to Fairycake

    Hello Nightingale

    I have just read your post .You are on an emotional rollercoaster at the moment and I am really feeling for you. I can only emphasize the positive messages from the other ladies. Hang on to these thoughts and know that we are all here for you

    I had my hysterectomy 4 weeks ago and am recovering really well. The histology came back as stage 1b grade 3 so I am starting radiotherapy next week. 

    We all have different ways of coping and you will find  the best tfor you. My strategy is not to look too far ahead ,just deal with each thing as it happens and in the meantime to remember that I  still have so much joy in my life, especially from my grandchildren.

    Sending you a virtual hug

    Shinygal

  • I am frustrated with not getting a straight answer from the staff at my local hospital about what happened at my day surgery hysteroscopy, when i was supposed to have two polyps removed and an endometrial biopsy.. I asked the consultant on Friday who  said something about being the polyps bring too firmly attached. He also said they were found to contain what he described as semi-aggressive grade 3 cancer cells,  without naming the type.  When I pressed for more information, he said  he was not too concerned about the cell grade as uterine cancers are slow growing and caught early and  I should focus instead on getting a hysterectomy which he was  confident  would see me operating much as normal by the end of November. 

    He then said  he was passing my case onto to another local hospital where I could be sure of good treatment and it would get done with laparoscopy. They would arrange for a CT and MRI scan at either hospital this week and my case would be discussed at at a MD meeting at the new hospital  on Friday afternoon and I would be asked to meet to agree a treatment plan the following Monday. Then he left.

    I then asked the nurse if she could  tell me what was actually done at the day surgery and if any part of  the polyps were removed. She said they were not polyps but probably tumors but  clearly  did not know. She said I would be assigned my own worker at the new hospital but to contact her if I had any questions meantime. The sonographer who examined me very carefully at the time was quite  specific  they were not tumors they were polyps  and Ihe registrar wrote to  my GP and said they were polyps.  I asked on my way out if I could speak to the registrar but she is on maternity leave at present so no luck there. I really would like to know what happened.

    Hopefully I will find out more when I get  transferred to the new hospital but for the current week I feel in limbo. I assume I can usually  ask questions like the ones above and get answers and it is just because I am between  hospitals at present that they are proving hard to come by.  I am not one of those people who just wants to leave it all to the doctors and not ask questions. But is adding to my frustration.

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to nightingale19

    Hi Nigtingale.  OK so I am hearing your frustration ! When I had my internal scan, I was told the lining of my womb was thick, and maybe there was a polyp. Went for Hysteroscopy, again was told that actually all looked good, but then he looked at what he had got out and went back in ! but again he thought that he had removed all of the nasty polyp. I wasn't convinced, but was assured they would contact me in about 6 weeks. I received an appointment  2 weeks later, alarm bells started ringing. And sure enough there I was with Cancer. 

    I honestly think that the protocol is that they can't tell you anything just by looking at a sample, or Ct or ultrasound, it has to go off for all of the lab tests first for confirmation, same with the Hysterectomy, my lovely gynae surgeon came to see me the morning  after my op and he said he thought it would be 2 , he  was right, the lab results came in 2 weeks later.

    Your head will be in a complete whirl at the moment, you will get all of your answers but sometimes we just have to wait, I just wished they hadn't said all looked good to me, I would rather have the correct information or no information, they are trying just to put your mind at ease. I had my CT scan pre op, and then the hysterectomy, I was driving my manual car after 2 weeks, not far, but enough to get me out and about. My treatment finished at the end of January this year, and am off to see my Oncologist tomorrow for my 2nd check up, fingers crossed all will be well. 

    This is the most frustrating time, waiting. But write  your questions down and hopefully your new nurse at the hospital will have the time to answer them all. I felt so angry that this had happened to me, but then realised actually life can be pretty *hit at times,  but I wasn't the only person it was happening to. I think it was something in my life I had absolutely no control over, like the death of my 26 year old son 3 years ago. You just have to go with it I'm afraid. 

    Just remember one thing. They can't actually lie to you !

    You take care, try some deep breathing when the stress becomes overwhelming. 

    LC

    X

  • I had a hysteroscopy in June with a similar outcome to you. My initial pelvic and  transvaginal ultrasounds showed what looked like a polyp. However, ultrasounds cannot determine whether any observed growth or thickening of the uterine wall is cancerous. I don't know why the sonographer told you they were definitely polyps and not tumours.This isn't possible with ultrasound alone.The MRI and CT scans give much more detailed images of soft tissue and will inform the MDT how far the cancerous polyps have penetrated the womb wall . It is standard practice to send a biopsy for analysis during hysteroscopy. The surgeon will have removed as much of your polyps during the procedure. However, since your lab tests identified cancer cells, the standard trea.tment to ensure all cancer cells contained within the uterus are removed is radical hysterectomy. The uterus and samples of lymph nodes will be sent to the lab after your hysterectomy to determine the stage of your cancer. Only when these results come through can you get a definitive Staging of your cancer. This  will determine if any further treatment is necessary. I think your consultant gave you as much information as he could after your hysteroscopy and has done the right thing referring you for laparoscopic hysterectomy. I'm sure the consultant and your dedicated cancer nurse specialist at the new hospital will be able to reassure you and answer any questions you might have, but unfortunately won't be able to give you any definite answers till your lab results from the hysterectomy arrive. Do try not to worry. As your current consultant says, most endometrial cancers are caught early and the prognosis is excellent. Onward and upwards! XX

  • Thank you for this information. Much appreciated 

  • Did you need follow up radiation treatment?