I am now 9 weeks in on a urgent cancer pathway with no diagnosis. I am neurodiverse have extreme medical trauma and cannot attend any medical establishments or medical appointments without severe panic attacks despite taking Diazepam before attending. I have had one failed hysteroscopy due to the consultant aborting it as he could not find a clear channel despite using 1/2 and 3/4 hegar dilators to try and find one. He felt the prospects of success were limited and complications a concern if he continued.He proposed a repeat procedure under general anaesthetic but my trauma would find that too much to cope with. I can force myself through an office procedure but there are too many layers to a ga. I could not cope with the preop tests, I am an insulin dependant diabetic and my blood sugars would be uncontrollable, I don't cope with people or them monitoring me and doing things to me. I wouldn't cope with being in a hospital ward either or the admittance or stay afterwards, which is likely to be more extended than a few hours due to how my blood sugars and blood pressure would react. I also need galsses to be able to see and hearing aids to hear and without them I feel very exposed and vulnerable, even for a few minutes.
I have agreed a reasonable adjustment of two supporters during appointments but obviously this would not be possible if I had a proceedure under ga.
I appreciate that most people would find the procedure more acceptable with general anaesethic, but not me. I mentioned regional or conscious sedation but apparently they are not offered by my trust and would in any case need all the preop tests and admittance. Another attempt at an in office procedure is being attempted on Wednesday but is likely to fail. I have also been told that there is no guarnatee that an operating room proceedure would be any more successful. I struggled with the tvus which was aborted in the first instance due to a panic attack, but achieved in a second attempt on another day. I have been offered an mri but would not be able to tolerate it.
I have spoken with the MCMillan helpline this morning but just wondering what tips everyone has for overcoming extreme anxiety and forcing themeselves through the tests and interractions. I don't have any continuity of care, Wednesday I will be seing athird different consultant.My last consultation I was so paniced I shook the whole time and was unable to speak without stuttering and struggling for breath. I have arange of techniques, music, mindfulness, meditation, breathing etc for trying to ground myself but none are working.
Also has anyone any experience of a failed in office procedure but achieved a successful result on a second attempt without ga? Pain was not an issue on the first attempt, the abortion was solely due to the consultant not being able to establish a clear channel for the scope.
I know everyone finds the process difficult and anxiety inducing, so wondered if anyone has any tips that I haven't tried. Somehow I have to find a way to force myself through the processes but my neurodiversity and trauma are preventing me.
Hi, I’m neurodivergent and have CPTSD from childhood trauma and have also had medical trauma. I appreciate that we are all different and I’m not intending to discount your anxiety at all, but for me, I worked out that my anxiety over possibly having cancer (and wanting to know for sure) was greater than my other anxieties, so I used disassociation (often not healthy but sometimes handy) and pragmatism to get done what needed to be done, reminding myself that the outcome would be that I’d know and get it sorted. I hope you manage to find something that works for you.
Thank you, I appreciate that disassociation can be helpful under some circumstances. My anxiety and neurodiversity tends to manifest in the opposite way with perseveration despite using numerous techniques to try and not allow it. I think what is making it worse, is that I am being pragmatic and forcing myself through the processes but it is not achieving a definitive diagnosis and I am being warned of a distinct possibility that they may not be able to biopsy or do a polypectomy.
For me, my first hysteroscopy failed due to the consultant not being willing to proceed as he didn’t have a clear pathway and was worried about injuring me or sending me into shock. My hysteroscopy under GA was a breeze and the consultant removed a polyp and was able to do a biopsy too. I was only under for about half an hour.
That's reassuring that despite being told the same things as me you did get a successful result. I keep telling myself that, and if the next one fails I will have to consent, but it's all the layers around it. My trauma is rooted in what have been totally unacceptable experiences, the problems have been due to people not procedures. My GP has put in place reasonable adjustments including continuity of care so I can build trusting relationships. There is a digital flag on my records about this, but the hospital trust I am under is not able to provide that pre-diagnosis. So far I have seen 3 different consultants. It's really not the ga or the procedure itself, it's the interactions, the monitoring, the necessity for attendance for preop tests. I cannot attend without extreme panic and the long delays between the attempts and tests just escalate my difficulties which feed off uncertainty.
As an aside, I like your username. I love Marmite and was born in 1959.
I'm so sorry about the situation you are in.
I have been given an alternative to diazepam as apparently it doesn't work the same for everyone and that worked better. It's also sometimes possible that the timings and doses need to be changed for each individual to prevent stress building prior. I had my hysteroscopy under GA. It was in a day surgery unit which was different smaller and quieter than a main department. We are all different but I was so grateful to be asleep. It meant much reduced trauma for me and a quicker result in terms of what happened next.
Thank you. The GP did consider alternatives and we have talked about the best way to take it and splitting the dose over an extended period so it's in the system is his current suggestion. He did also consider a betablocker but I have a low resting heart rate - well when I'm not in a total panic - so it was contraindicated.
That's really good that your GP is considering options. I've tried a couple of meds and methods adjusted to the situation which have been really helpful. It's taken me years to say I have an issue so hats off to you for even talking about it. It also helps lots of other people to know they're not alone.
I was the same. I knew I'd have to find a way to move forward. I must admit staff seemed to react mostly well when I said I wanted to work with them to get things done.
There have been some absolutely amazing staff and some absolutely dreadful. I have a digital flag on my record due to trauma and anxiety and some have been very respectful of that. But others have completely ignored it. But I accept that NHS faster diagnosis is not really set up for reasonable adjustments or personalised care.
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