Failed Hysteroscopy - what next?

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Hello,

A bit of an unusual first post and I do not have a diagnosis yet so hope someone may have had a similar experience?

At the beginning of July I had a post menopausal bleed - it was very much like a period with a beginning, a middle and an end, although was very mild.  As my last period was in August 2022 I thought I'd better get it checked out and I was referred to Gynaecology for investigation.

I had an ultrasound which showed a slight thickening (7mm) and a small polyp - however, as the gynaecologist said - how did the radiographer know that it was a polyp and a biopsy would be required to be sure.

This is where it gets a bit complicated - he asked me there and then if I was happy to have the biopsy done in the office.  I said I felt OK but he should know that I had some issues 10 years ago when my uterus was damaged by the removal of a coil and I was unable to have a new one inserted, even under GA.  He dismissed this and said he was willing to give it a go if I was.  I agreed and sure enough, he could not manoeuvre the instrument into the uterus so I was referred to the next stage to have the procedure done under local anaesthetic - unfortunately this also failed so I was referred onwards to have the procedure done under GA.

I was admitted for day surgery and once again I explained the back story but was re-assured they would be able to successfully take a biopsy and hopefully a polypectomy under GA.  Unfortunately this also failed and a false passage was created resulting in me needing a course of anti-biotics and referral for MRI to see if that might help diagnosis.

I had the MRI the following week (last Monday) and am now waiting for the results.

My questions are:

1. Will the MRI show a clearer picture of the polyp or will it be able to detect cancer without biopsy?

2. Has anyone had a further biopsy done and was this via hysteroscopy again or is there another way of doing this?  Eg, via laparoscopy?

I have been left feeling a little insignificant and can feel myself sliding down the waiting list - I know it's only a small polyp and probably nothing sinister but the extended wait is really starting to bother me now.  

Is there a reasonable wait time before I contact them?

Any advice gratefully received.

Ali

x

  • Hi Ali

    Welcome to the Womb group.

    I am sorry to hear of your issues regarding the hysteroscopies. 

    In answer to your questions,

    The MRI may well give a clearer picture but it is only a biopsy- where the cells are tested that can confirm whether cancer is present or not. 

    I am not sure what would happen next and whether something could be done laparoscopically - you could give the Support Line a call and ask one of the nurses. We are not medically trained on here so can only talk about our own experiences.  

    It is not unreasonable to want to contact them and find out what happens next. My feeling would to be to wait for when you get your MRI results back and then see what they suggest next. You could follow up with your GP but I would expect that they would want to have the MRI results back first. I would then perhaps think along the lines of asking whether the polyp should be removed laparoscopically as then that would give the opportunity for biopsy at the same time. 

    Hope you can get some answers soon.

    Jane

           

    Macmillan Support Line - 0808 808 00 00, 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

  • Thank you for taking the time to read my message and respond Jane - what you say makes perfect sense. 

    I will update here with what happens as someone else may find themselves in a similar position - I have found if really hard to find out what happens next but will take one step at a time. 

  • Hi Jane

    I'm in the same boat as Ali.  I'm 60 and only recently went on HRT - just 3 months now.  I went to my GP with sleeping issues and overheating during the night - it was like I was getting plugged like a heater!  anyhow he referred me to a gyny who had no issue with giving me HRT and also sent me for an ultra sound in July. Which unfortunately showed a thickening in the lining of my womb.  She called me back and booked me for a Hysteroscopy DNC and biopsy.  However she couldn't get in.  She gave 2 options 1. try again giving me meds to soften the cervix or 2. full hysterectomy.  The biggest issue I had with my gyny was I was still in the theatre recovering from a full anaesthetic and she gave me those two options and terrified the living daylights out of me.

    So I went back to my GP for a 2nd referral who examined me as said he would not dream of attempting a  hysteroscopy as my cervix was too small and the opening was a pin hole.  He offered another ultra sound the end of sept and if there was a change - then he would advise a hysterectomy otherwise he would do nothing and just monitor.

    Questions:-

    1.  HRT - Since I'm only taking HRT for 3 months would this be the cause of the thickening in the lining of my womb?  should I come off it altogether?

    2. Is there a procedure other than a hysteroscopy to get into the womb to take a biopsy?

    3. If there's no other route in - it's seems drastic to do a full hysterectomy if I don't know if this thickening is sinister or not.

    4. Gyny no 2 - offer to monitor - knowing that there's a thickening there doesn't feel right - I don't know if I could just plod along normally if you follow me without worrying.

    I really would like to know what it is...  if it's cancerous then by all means take it out and if not leave it be.

    Should I continue with HRT ? 

    Anyone else in a similar boat and what advice did you get ?

    I'm new to this site - so I hope I'm doing this correctly... 

    Caroline.

  • Hi Caroline

    You are not alone in having a failed hysteroscopy. For some ladies their anatomy can make it more difficult/painful.

    We are not medically trained on here but you could give the Support Line a call and speak with one of the nurses. 

    From personal experience and from being on here.........

    Hyperplasia can have different causes and there are different types. 

    My cancer was hormone positive so if I had been on HRT it would have encouraged it to grow. 

    A repeat scan at the end of September is a good idea to see if there has been a change. Its not too far ahead. I would discuss the HRT with the doctor. 

    Only a biopsy can tell for sure if cancer is present. I have not heard of one being done laparoscopically before but it may be worth asking. I would also be asking whether there would be repeat scans at say a 3 month interval to continue to monitor. It may well be that an initial biopsy could be clear but one a few months later would not be. From my understanding hyperplasia can develop in some ladies. 

    My gut feeling though, after my own experience is that the hysterectomy is an option worth considering. A hysterectomy these days is a much more straightforward operation than before, it is often done laparoscopically. I stayed in hospital one night only, had little pain and recovered quickly. I was going for walks the day after I got home. 

    I will pop a link

    Endometrial Hyperplasia: Causes, Symptoms and Treatment (patient.info)

    Side effects of hormone replacement therapy (HRT) - NHS (www.nhs.uk)

    I hope this helps a bit. But do give the Support Line a call and talk to one of the nurses.

    Jane

           

    Macmillan Support Line - 0808 808 00 00, 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

  • Hi jane2511 I am in same boat what was the outcome if you don’t mind me asking? X

  • Hi Ali ; I’m in same boat how did you get on? I am to go for mri due to failed hysteroscopy under general. Pretty fed up and weepy x

  • Hello, apologies I didn’t return to give an update. The MRI didn’t show anything sinister and I was invited to a final appointment with the senior gynaecologist who gave me the all clear. He was confident that my bleed was caused by the HRT and as I have had no symptoms since I feel I agree with him and no further action will be taken unless I guess it happens again. 

    I’m sorry to hear you are going through similar and I can only say try not to worry - hopefully you will have the same outcome as me. 

  • I too had a failed hysteroscopy (18th October) and had to have an MRI done the following week. My consultant was very quick off the mark when he got the results and I’m having my hysterectomy tomorrow. For me it can’t be done laparoscopically due to too much scar tissue from my c-sections. and I’ll only  know for definite if there is cancer when they test what they remove.

    I understand the weepy feeling 100% and in my case theres a feeling of panic too. Im not looking forward to the op but I want it all out as soon as possible.

  • Thank you so much for replying! X