vaginal cancer update

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Good afternoon ladies.  I haven't been on here in a while.  So I was diagnosed with vaginal cancer in April.  It was stage 3.  It was on cervix, vaginal wall, and 3 lymph nodes.  It did not go outside of pelvic wall.   I had radiation and chemo.  I had brachytherapy in July.  I went back to work on August 1st.  The radiation was the most difficult part to me.  The skin irritations and I had severe abdominal pain off and on.  God brought me through it though!  The doctor said I responded very well to treatment and the scan in July did not show tumor anymore.  I go back on October 2nd for new PET scan.  Doctor said this will determine if additional chemo will be needed.  I believe I'm all clear.  I asked about immunotherapy.  She said she didn't think I needed it now.  

So as far as sex.  LAWD it was painful.  They recommended 3 days a week or use the dialator.  It is getting better now.  It takes a while just in case someone reading this is dealing with that too.  Anyway, I welcome some feed back.  

  • Thank you. I will definitely be asking the questions you suggested when I see the oncologist. 

    Debs xx

  • Definitely ask questions-you could ask about the risk of recurrence with or without radiotherapy/brachytherapy, what is your risk of long term side effects from either treatment, and what are the consequences of having no treatment. Also what would be your next option if VAIN becomes invasive cancer, or your vaginal cancer recurs. 

    Typically, treatment is offered to reduce the risk of recurrence which is why it is being suggested for you but risk of recurrence can never be totally eliminated for anyone, regardless of treatment. 

    Sarah xx


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  • Hi Sarah. Just an update after Tuesdays appointment. Finally was going to go ahead with the external beam radiotherapy and brachytherapy. Signed the consent. Was going to have the CT planning scan next week. Had an appointment with the surgeon in the afternoon for my post op check up. There's a little polyp which says could be granulation where the scar tissue has over healed in that spot. But she is really concerned with reoccurrence especially as they weren't good margins. Is suggesting to have surgery to remove the vagina completely ( already had a partial vaginectomy) then when that's healed for 4 to 6 weeks go for the radiotherapy to the pelvic lymph nodes. It was just another body blow just when I'd prepared myself for the brachytherapy. She just doesn't think the brachytherapy will definitely treat all the margins. To give the best chance of reoccurrence not happening locally she is really strongly asking me to consider the surgery. I know from your message that you've had it done. Just wondering what your experience was/is that is if you'd mind sharing on a forum as I know this is very personal. I totally understand if you don't though. I've gone back for yet another second opinion with the Royal Marsden and hopefully they will be discussing it at their MDT meeting on Tuesday. I just feel all over the place at the moment. 

  • Hi Debs

    I’m sorry it wasn’t better news for you, especially as you’d made the decision to go ahead with the treatment.

    Yes, I did have my vagina completely removed as part of my larger total pelvic exenteration surgery. My surgery was done as open abdominal, so my only wound was from my belly button to my pubic bone. Obviously I have my 2 stomas, one on either side of my belly button, but nothing else to be seen externally.

    I am left with a vaginal “stump” inside, same as my rectal “stump” having had my rectum removed, but everything is sewn up internally, so I had no external stitches anywhere, other than round my stomas.

    I found it very uncomfortable to sit down after surgery, even in my hospital chair-it was easier for me to be lying down in bed, or even sitting in bed because of the way you can move and position the hospital bed. It took several weeks for my internal stitches to heal to be able to sit comfortably. I chose not to have any vaginal reconstruction done as it would have increased the length of my surgery and required a plastic surgeon.

    I found there was no help psychologically offered or given but it’s a big deal to lose your vagina and know you will never be able to have sex again! Doctors want to sort out the physical issue, but I haven’t found any of my surgeons or doctors thinking about the emotional and mental aspect.

    I don’t have experience of second opinions, as I went with the recommendation of my gynae surgeon, and I also didn’t really have the time to start the process as my cancer was growing aggressively. 

    If the MDT from the Marsden comes back with a different opinion to your doctor, how would you feel about that? I’m not surprised you’ll be feeling in a spin right now with this potential change to your circumstances. I don’t regret my surgery at all, because as I’ve said before, my priority was getting rid of the cancer, but I appreciate we are all different and may hold different views.

    Sarah xx


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  • Ah thank you again for your speedy response. Its so good to be able to talk to someone who can relate. Im sorry you didnt get the psychological support you needed. You're absolutely right about it being a big deal to know you will never have sex. I live in my own at the moment so I guess it's not going to immediately impact me straight away. Whether down the line it will who knows? I think the brachytherapy was potentially going to significantly reduce it in length and width anyway which was part of my reluctantance as well as the potential other side effects.

    I'm just wondering now if the surgery to remove the vagina is now the better option as at least it gets rid of the precancerous cells if they have spread down the wall of the vagina.  The risk with the brachytherapy is that it will only affect the top of the vagina so no guarantee it will reach down far enough, from what I'm understanding. I know the external beam was also going to pick up the whole length of the vagina, but it wouldn't go in as deep. 

    Once again I'm very grateful for you sharing your experience. Thank you

    Debs xx

  • Hi Debs and Sarah

    I hope you don't mind me joining in on this chat. I had my vagina  and part of my labia removed in 2021 and had reconstruction surgery at the same time. This was due to bowel cancer even though i have no large bowel. I have an ileostomy that was pperformed 43 years ago for crohns disease. Full details on my profile. 

    Firstly it's so important that this type of cancer/surgery is discussed as I felt very alone when going through my surgery and it was only through this forum that I managed to have contact with somebody who was due to have similar surgery to me. This has been valuable and ongoing support. 

    As you've mentioned here it's really hard to find emotional support for this type of surgery and although I have now started specialist counselling I still have a complete mental block when it comes to having sex with my husband. It doesn't look or feel the same. I do wonder had I not had the reconstruction whether I'd feel better mentally as it would have removed the pressure from me to have sex. I'm not sure that I will ever get my head around it. Its almost like I can't fully recover till I attempt intercourse. My plastic surgeon (an amazing lady) said that there should be further followup concerning how women get on with intimacy in the years following this type of surgery. 

    I hope you dont mind me sharing my story with you both. I also want to say how amazing you both are and I'm sending you both huge hugs. 

    Blackswan 

  • Thank you so much Blackswan for sharing your very personal and intimate experiences. I'm very grateful that you have joined our chat. As you said this little community is absolutely invaluable. Chatting with others that have had or experiencing similar things is really helping me. Im so sorry what you're going through. I've just seen your profile. Wow you've really been through so much you poor love. Im so pleased you're having specialist counselling and really hope it can help with your mental block. As it was in 2021 it's still is quite recent really. I'm thinking such a life changing experience will take time to readjust to. Plus getting over the trauma of the diagnosis itself. You are one strong woman to have lived with the ileostomy for so long and at such a young age. I guess that must have taken some adjustment at the time, but you've done it and I'm sure that spirit will help you again to get over this block, plus your counselling. I really admire you and thank you again for being so open and sharing with us. Big hugs back.

    Much love Debs x

  • Hi  and thank you for joining the chat here.

    You are lucky to get specialist counselling-I have had counselling in the past, and am currently receiving weekly counselling under the nhs but this is not from a specialist or psycho sexual counsellor.  However, I am finding it helpful in general since I suffer from anxiety and ptsd. 

    It was only after my surgery that I really thought about what I had been through and it took me a long time to reach out for help-almost a year. I was very disappointed by the reaction of my lead surgeon-she seemed astonished that my mental health was affected by my surgery and wasn’t very receptive to my need for some help, so she pushed this onto my CNS who got me a referral. It took a lot for me to ask for help, and to be given the impression I didn’t need it was quite soul destroying.

    There needs to be more talking, and definitely follow up after surgery. I’m sad I didn’t get any of this at the time. You’ve been very honest sharing here, so thank you for that. I’ll never know how I might have felt if I’d attempted reconstruction but I’m not sorry I didn’t do it. I have a number of friends in a support group who have had this done and have similar feelings to you. Some have also had significant physical issues, so I’m glad in a way I saved myself that kind of pressure. That door is forever shut now so to speak! But other than in a safe place like here in the community or in my online support group I would never discuss this with anyone except my partner, so it can be quite isolating. 

    Sarah xx


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  • I'm sorry we all go through so much.  We keep pushing and keep walking in faith to get us through.  I'm so glad to have the support of each of you.  Thank you for  sharing your report.  I just had brachytherapy in July.  I went to 90 day PET scan which was good.  I'm still having pain during intercourse particularly after ejaculation.  Throbbing pain somewhere in upper vaginal area for about two minutes but when he pulls out that doesn't happen.  I'm still waiting on an answer for that.  After having breast cancer and now vaginal cancer, I don't have physical desire for sex.  I feel like some of me being a woman is being depleted.  That is a lie though.  There is so much more to we being women than any of that.  Keep that in mind.   I try to remember that the most important thing is to get rid of the cancer like Sarah said and live.  I pray you are encouraged to do just that.  I finally realized I need therapy to relieve some of the anxiety.  I actually start next month.  

  • Thank you for your comments  about side effects and everyone being different.  Starting my treatment soon and been dreading it...now feel a little  better...many thanks.x