Why only a 'surveillance mammogram' after treatment for TNBC Grade 3?

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My first 'surveillance mammogram' is coming up in a fortnight.

This is after 15 months of treatment, finished end of January 2025, which comprised neoadjuvant chemo and immunotherapy, a lumpectomy and full axillary clearance (1 of the 22 nodes removed had cancer cells) a hiatus of 8 weeks on heavy duty steroids for an AKI caused by the immunotherapy, 15 sessions of breast and supraclavicular radiotherapy, and 15 weeks of adjuvant, oral, chemotherapy.

I am puzzled that protocol says an annual surveillance mammogram is enough - not least because two, possibly 3 mammograms, including a 3D mammogram showed nothing, apart from a cyst (about which I have never heard nothing more in January 2023, less than a year before the TNBC diagnosis in September 2023 - when a smallish, 20mm, tumour and multiple lymph nodes with cancer cells were found by ultrasound and the routine scan doctor's and my instincts, T1c (20) N1 (LNB5) M0 G3 IDC ER0, PR 2, HER2 0).

Incidentally I nearly didn't go for the routine scan because the same hospital had discharged me and my worries less than 6 months earlier! Trust your instincts.

Hoping the mammograms show nothing - of course - but how do we cope for another year until the next surveillance mammogram, with all the worry about bone METS, brain METS, aching legs at night (as now), recurrence elsewhere, when no other scans, blood tests etc. are involved?

I'm also dreading the mammogram, as I have lymphoedema in my right breast as well as my arm and it's already painful - without being compressed in a machine! Any tips on how to cope?

Peripheral neuropathy in my feet is full-on too, over a year on from the Paclitaxel that caused it.  Feeling pretty sorry for myself today. Usually more positive.

  • I am sorry you are feeling anxious about this. I also feel there’s a tendency to cast people out into the wilderness. I had what was thought to be early stage grade 3 TNBC, no lymph node involvement. Lumpectomy followed by 4 cycles EC and 12 weeks Paclitaxel. I had just started the Paclitaxel when I was hospitalised with diverticulitis. I had a CT scan because of this and it came up with an unexpected finding of a liver met. If that scan hadn’t happened it would have been some time before the secondary cancer made itself felt. As it happened, I was able to clear the cancer from my liver through pembrolizumab followed by an ablation. Like you. I had to stop pembro thanks to kidney, thyroid and lung damage. It took 9 months of high dose steroids to sort that out, but I have remained in remission. 

    unfortunately their protocols only scan when there are symptoms. My situation did cause my oncologist to question whether they should routinely CT scan grade 3 TNBC even without lymph node involvement. 

  • Thank you Coddfish for helpful and interesting reply. When I was first diagnosed I was sure that it had metastatised to my bones because of aching calf. Bone scan showed no mets, but arthritis in both knees, and lumbar spine - which onco said could be the cause of calf ache, oddly. It's probably the osteoarthritis aches coming back now which are making me anxious. I will use your story when I see the oncologist after the mammogram. All best for your continuing remission. X

  • Thanks. I think my situation was a surprise because I had no lymph node involvement. I did have vascular invasion at the tumour site, which isn’t routinely treated as a higher risk factor, but the cancer had likely travelled to my liver through the blood. If you click on my name, there’s a link to my blog at the bottom and you can read the full horror story if you like such things! 

    It’s hard to live with the not knowing. I have been living with cancer for over 3 years and having scans every 3 months since the liver involvement was identified. At the time of every scan I imagine twinges in my liver which go away once I get the results. I have recently been moved to 6 monthly scans which I hope will reduce the anxiety periods. 

  • On the arthritis point, you mentioned 8 weeks of high dose steroids following your AKI. I had prednisolone. 60 mg per day at first, then a brief period of a higher dose through daily IV, then back to the 60 followed by a long wean. It was 9 months before I was off them completely and it kicked on the arthritis I had very significantly to the point where I now need a hip replacement. So your aches may well be that.  I am grateful that my kidneys eventually fully recovered as they initially thought it was going to be fairly catastrophic. “Have you seen this before and if so what happened?”  “Don’t ask”. 

  • Tx. I was also on prednisolone, IV first then 60 mg and weaned after only 9 weeks, not months.Similarily horrendous A&E experience to yours - and I was the one who spotted the astronomical creatine level first! 

    Hadn't known steroids could affect arthritis but not surprised to learn. Lots of oedema in legs and ankles. Still not properly gone. All best wishes