MRI results T3a!

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I am very anxious now  that I have had the results from the MRI.
Unfortunately, the scan is graded PIRAD5 (the highest grade, meaning “highly suspicious”).
I have Stage 3 cancer - T3a to be precise, which means it has grown outside the Prostate capsule, but has not yet invaded anything around it.
The scan was normal for seminal vessels, bladder, rectum, lymph and bones .
The lesion is 15mm long, consistent with clinically significant Prostate cancer. This is responsible for the bulging of the capsule on the right hand side. I also have mild enlargement in the middle of the capsule. So it looks like I will have to have the whole shooting match removed.
Biopsy early September (unless I can get a cancellation), so a long nervous anxious wait. Then 2-3 weeks for results, and maybe another month for treatment. I’ve had a look at going private, but the lists are just as long (same surgeons).
I guess I must thank the new GP (who suggested a PCA blood test) as they’re not usually offered on the NHS as, unbelievably, there is no screening system in the UK (probably because the number of men with positive results would overwhelm the NHS). Incidentally, my PSA readings were:
Aug 2015 : 2.6
June 2023: 11.0
July 2023: 13.0
If I can get through the treatment in one piece, she will certainly have saved my life. Let’s hope it’s not too late Alarm clock.  Any advice would be MUCH appreciated!!

  • Hi Alpine Wanderer. I was diagnosed T3a Gleason 8 in November 2018 so will 5 years ago this november. I had 3 years of hormone therapy and 20 sessions of radio therapy and was told in March the hospital considered that my cancer was dealt with. It can be be a long slow road with some worry on the way but it's not the end of the World.

    Best of luck with whatever treatment you decide on  

    Kind regards Reg

  • I’ve now obtained a copy of my MRI report and it says:

    Prostate:
    Size: 5.0 cm trans x 3.2 cm AP x 3.1 cm CC giving an
    estimated prostatic volume of 25ml. The PSA density is
    calculated to be 0.52 which is significantly elevated
    There is a focus of abnormal low T2 signal intensity in the
    right posterolateral peripheral zone between the 7 o'clock
    and 9 o'clock position which in the axial plane measures 15
    mm and is best appreciated on axial T2 image 19 which is
    matched by restricted diffusion and early enhancement and is
    consistent with a site of clinically significant prostate
    cancer. There is slight bulging of the pseudo capsule
    suggesting early T3a disease.

    … so my prostate is normal size with high PSA density (so certainly PCa present), with a signal intensity of 15mm on one side only (not necessarily the size of the lesion itself) and only slight bulging of the capsule.  Maybe I’m only T2b?  I have been told that the radiographers err on the side of caution, hence the “early T3a” recommendation?  I’m a natural optimist - what do you think Thinking 

  • Morning AW - I ain't no expert but I would go for a T3a N0 M0.

    I agree with you they err on the side of caution and if there's a bulge - you don't want the little buggers going walkabout!!

    So what's your next step (no pun intended!!) are you joining us on the HT/RT route or do you fancy having the thing removed or there is brachytherapy (not available everywhere in the UK)?

    Good luck with which ever route you take to continue your journey.

    Best wishes

    Brian.

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  • Hi Millibob - I’m leaning towards Da Vinci robot RP, nerve sparing if possible (especially on the side without anything on the capsule). I’ve got a private consultation with a professor (specialist in biopsy) next week. I have NHS fusion biopsy booked 15 September, but they’re hoping to bring me forward on a catch up clinic.

  • Well AW that sounds like a plan to me. Nerve Sparing are the two most important words there.

    Good luck with it - keep us posted as to how it goes.

    Best wishes

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  • Sounds as if you are at with a similar staging as my husband. T3 a N0 M0 . There was bulging against the wall with uncertainty about whether or not the tumour had broken through. As Brian says, they treated him as if it had broken through  -ie worst case scenario.  He was Gleason 4+3 = 7.  Now almost a year since MRI scan. Rt completed. HT ongoing. He actively did not want surgery.  Neither options are perfect and both have side effects.. would advise doing lots of your own research:)

  • Fully agree with WW

    * Diagnosis of T3a N0 M0 - I was a T3a as there was a "shadow" on my MRI - In the words of the Oncologist "We will zap your lymph nodes to be sure".

    * Research ALL side effects for all treatments. You aren't guaranteed to get them all, but 1 or 2 are unpleasant to say the least.

    Best wishes

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  • Biopsy brought forward to 2 September on catch up clinic!

  • Happy days - Good luck with it - not something to look forward to!  At least it will be over and done with!

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  • Good news! Keep pushing them politely!