Light chain myeloma D-rd protocol. Anyone has experience on this?

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Hello Everyone, I started finally The chemo on Tuesday, the 17th of February with the protocol that includes daratumumab, dexamethasone and Lenalidomide. I have a bunch of other pills that I take one to protect the stomach the other one anti viral the other one to thin the blood et cetera it’s been two injections already. They are subcutaneous and the first time I was left three hours in observation and the second time The observation was only one hour and I’m not having any reaction to the injections. The steroids are the ones that keep me jumping and disturb my sleep over all in the three days after the 25 mg of steroids are taken. I read that the first two weeks are the worst, I have yet disturbance in my heart rhythm, obsessive thoughts, in general ane affectation to my usual positiveness and I hope that my body will cope as the months go along I have at least six months so six cycles of four weeks and the lenalidomide is administered three weeks continue daily and one week off I have to say that I was prepared to have more side effects, but it seems that my body is accepting quite well. The cocktail this protocol is called Maia And seems to be indicated for people like like me 75 year-old that are not transplant eligible. Anyone has experience on this? Are some side effects accumulative? Many thanks CD 

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  • Hi  

    Thank you for sharing your experience. I just wanted to say I am sorry to hear about your recent diagnosis and wish you all the best with your treatment. 

    I was diagnosed in October. Took 4 cycles of Dara VRd (Maia plus Velcade / Bortezomib). I am scheduled to have autologous SC transplant in March.

    I recognise the symptoms you mention, particularly the Dexomethasone. It does get easier as you get to know the illness, the medicine and your body better. I hope the worst is already behind you.

    The combination of the illness and the chemicals in your body can be quite tough on the mind. Remember to be compassionate with yourself and patient with those around you. Time expands when you are going through a traumatic experience like this, but others won’t experience it at the same intensity as you, no matter how much they care about you.

    I hope everything goes well with the rest of your treatment.

    Rooting for you…

  • Many thanks skipper for taking the time. It is quite a shock. For some reason the young one in oneself thinks one is immortal and death is something that happens to other people. This is a good catch up that the cycle of life is how naturally life spans. Heart️

  • Hi Carlos.

    Like Skipper88, I had the same as you, plus Velcade / Bortezomib, back in 2023 (I have been in remission since then).

    Dexamethazone is notorious for causing sleeplessness. I can suggest CBD oil to help reduce that, by squirting a few drops under the tongue before you go to bed. I still couldn't sleep so well for a night or two after the Dex, but it did make a difference for me.

    I also had an erratic heartrate occasionally during treatment. This was especially unnerving as it was only a couple of years after being diagnosed with two heart conditions (both nothing to do with myeloma and I have been cured of one of them). The heart rate issue did settle down.

    Lenalidomide can cause mood changes. That could be related to the obsessiveness that you mention. Alternatively, you have been through the shock of a myeloma diagnosis, and that can be enough to affect anyone's mental health!

    I found that I became tearful in the evenings. It felt 'artificial', in that there was little/no emotion behind it, so I put it down as caused by Lenaldomide. My way of dealing with it was escapism, watching TV (specifically repeats of The Six Million Dollar Man Grinning) or watching stand up comedians on Youtube.

    All of this are memories from 2023. Since then, I have had everything from holidays, to family celevrations, to exercise, music concerts / festivals. In short, enjoying life.

    I don't know if any of this helps, but please remember that you will get through this, and that you are not alone!

  • Hi Chicken, for sharing your experience! being myself approaching the end of the 2nd week I can sEE there is a pattern that I am already recognizing. I am taking 20gr weekly of dexa. I read that some centres reduce this to 12mg after a while. Did you have the same dosis all the treatment? The CBD oil is a v good tip. Thanks. Did you get it from the NHS? CD

  • Hi Carlos,

    I had 20mg of Dex on chemo day and took another 20mg the following day (so twice each week). The dose stayed the same until remission. In remission, it was slowly reduced over the last couple of years. Even now, I get 4mg of it on the day (once every 4 weeks) that I get my Daratumumab injection.

    On CBD oil, I buy a spray from Holland and Barrett called "Love Hemp" (this is not an ad for them Grinning). I only learnt that it could help after about 8 months of getting by on next to no sleep (maybe 2-4 hours were typical at night plus a daytime nap). From the very first night, the sleep was blissful, except the first night or so after taking Dex (it still helped then but was less effective).

  • Thank you, wow, 40mg weekly sounds paramount. You must to be a young soul to endure that. I with 75-76 find dexa the hardest drug to cope with @ 20mg. Thank you for the H&B tip. Will certainly follow your advise. Stay well   W gratitude. Carlos

  • Carlos, you are right about my age: I am in my fifties. A bit young to get myeloma, although some on this forum have been diagnosed in their thirties Upside down).

    Plus side: yes, I can handle relatively tough treatment, though subject to a dodgy heart and low platelets. I have also bounced back in the sense that I do some pretty gruelling exercise again.

    Minus side: I had to semi-retire, due to fatigue and brain fog. It has also been a lot for my family and I to go through. They have been so supportive. 

  • Thank you for sharing. Myself, I don’t seem to be handling well the cocktail. I was on my treatment day today and although they went ahead with the Dara infusion, had to have a bone marrow booster and suspend the lenalidomide till I have a F2F on Friday to tailor the doses. My neutrophils just were too low. Upside down

  • Yes, I remember the booster (G-CSF). My neutrophils were sometimes low (below 1.0). 

    If you have taken some injections home to self-inject, don't forget to keep them in the fridge.