The things that go on in my head

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HI there, I'm David.

I've had a breakdown before and I am a firm believer in being honest when mental health issues are around.  I'm pretty stable, but I wanted to "put it out there" the journey my mind has been on while I deal with the "do I or do I not have cancer"

My profile mentions I'm autistic. I'm high functioning and happy with who I am, but it does give me an ability to sit besides myself and ponder what the hell my brain is doing some days.

Here are the phases I went through. I'm pretty sure many will relate and my doctor tells me it's perfectly normal:

1) I get a letter saying there is an abnormality that has come up on a cardiac scan in my right lung.

My reaction. F@&k. Sh*t. Panic. My mother-in-law has passed a week earlier from lung cancer and now there is something in my lung. How am I going to tell my wife????? Could it be cancer or something else?

2) A couple of hours later I get a phone call from the hospital. Could I come in to see the lung rapid response team next Wednesday. I said "Hell Yeah. Can I come sooner?" "No, Wednesday PM is when the clinic is held"

My reaction: Great, I get answers soon, 6 days time. Then, S*&t, Wednesday PM is the Lung cancer clinic at my local hospital. I've been there for the last 2 years with my M-I-L. Damn, I do have cancer. I can't put my wife through this, so I can't tell anyone. I phone my (older) sister, tell her, cry a bit, try to be calm, swear her to secrecy.  I then start re-researching cancer, signs etc.

The next day my mind is going crazy. It could be so many things. I busy myself with being the executor of my M-I-L's estate. At night my head is spinning and I'm not sleeping.

After a day or two I start taking Night Nurse to get to sleep. As a cardiac patient, this is not a great way to medicate, but it does enable me to handle massive anxiety.  My wife thinks I've simply caught up in the grief of our current situation.

3) I see the lung specialist. I need scans - PET, CT, however this phrase was used " I explained that although at this stage we cannot give a firm diagnosis, I would expect the most likely diagnosis is lung cancer. The next scans will give us more information about whether this has spread to other sites."

Wow.  I have CANCER. Holy hell fire. I started the mental process of being able to say that. "I have cancer." Having been told I had 18 months to live after my heart attack (that was 8 years ago and before the bypass operation), I came home and quietly checked the pension, will, mortgage, my dad's will, debts etc. I basically made sure the family would survive financially if I left them.

I started to think short term. My anxiety was through the roof, but I was given sleeping pills (which worked) and gave me the strength to make it through the day with a good sleep behind me. Oh, left a foul taste on my tongue 24x7. Asking for help is vital. I was getting manic.

I couldn't focus on things beyond the next few days. I wanted to keep it a secret to space my wife. This was 2 days before valentines and I didn't want to ruin that if it was going to be our last.  I wasn't thinking about surviving. I was thinking about managing a decline.

To be clear. I was convinced I had cancer and had to deal with that.  I'm job hunting, but putting together a cover letter now took 3-6 hours where as before it took 15-60 minutes. I was hanging on and I knew it.

4) I told my wife and family

I couldn't keep it a secret. I burst and told my family. Everyone was calm, strong. A few tears, many questions, the same ones I had going around in my head, but it was all "wait and see the results of the scans" answers.

Life was easier having shared, but I still walked, talked and slept knowing I had cancer and it wasn't going to be nice. My mum lasted 4 months, my M-I-L lasted 2 years, but the result was the same.

I have life insurance that pays if you had a terminal disease. I saw my life going down several paths, but the easiest I could see was to have terminal cancer, take the money have some great times with my wonderful wife and family, then sail off into the sunset. Simple, knowable, fun.

This was how I kepy my anxiety at bay, by answering all the questions down to the above plan.

5) Scan results, it's now only "maybe" you have cancer

Maybe!!! What the hell can I do with a maybe. I have some cycts in both lungs, a 2.5cm lump in my right lung. Dye take up was only mild, so maybe I don't have cancer. They don't know. Time to have a biopsy.

OMG, I can't handle a maybe.  I chose to go on believing it is cancer. The probability assigned is a statistical probability with way to much aligned to age, sex etc, so I discounted it.  This was the only way to keep a lid on my anxiety. My sleeping pill dosage was upped as it was starting to slip.

But I was asking for help again. Ask if you need. Always Ask.

I still couldn't concentrate. How the hell are you supposed to hunt for jobs when you don't know if you can be available as you might be having cancer treatment?  I asked for help and was told. If you have cancer, they can't fire you, even if you have only just joined.  Well, that seems like a sh*tty way to be to any new employer, but hey, I need a home and that means I need to try to get a job.  Letters still took hours instead of minutes, but hey.

6) Biopsy in inconclusive, but you really might not have cancer

WTF? How can I not have cancer? To reduce my anxiety, I had put on the "I have cancer" coat. Been seen in it. Posted on Facebook. Publicly owned the fact? But it could all be wrong? I wanted to have cancer by now. If I don't, those "pre-cancerous" cycts need monitoring. I don't want to have years of "maybe, lets get a scan and talk in a few weeks." 

I NEED a plan and this no action is killing me. I want to scratch my eyes out and scream at the world. It would be simple if I had cancer. I can plan, I can battle. Having something suspicious just means I have to wait, be afraid, scared of the future.

Plus of course, what are these lumps if they are not cancer. More questions, no more answers.

I'd reached the point where cancer was my prefered mental state so I could "deal" with it. How f*cked up is that? But it was where I got to. I helped to keep me calm. It wasn't something I could control, but I could accept.

So here I am, going around in circles asking questions that until they get some good biospies, just can't be answered.

7) Settling

But, there was a breakthrough. I was humming to a tune as I came down the stairs the other day. I still don't have answers, but somehow I felt lighter. I'm prepared to tell the world that the initial diagnosis was wrong if it was. I'm still scared as f**k if is it cancer, but I no longer see that as my only future. Part of the reason, is that I've had the conversation above with many people when they ask and have the time. The more I talk, the more I'm able to settle with it.

One last perspective, no one knows when their time is up. I had a wonderful cousin who was involved in a terrible car accident that robbed her of 3 people when she was just a teenager. She took months and years to recover, but she became an awesome person and mother,full of life. As she went to celebrate her 40th birthday with a holiday, some fool driving the wrong way at night on the motorway robbed us of her light. It wasn't the things that happened to her that defined her, or how she lived her life. Noone knew a drugged up driver would be her undoing. I have a failing heart, lumps and cycts in my lungs, but I need to live today whether they are my end or not.  The more I tell people my story, the better I am able to manage my anxiety and live for myself and my family. I'm not religious, so my outlook may be different to others.

Edited / Added 19th April 2024

8) Unsettled

Wow, just f**king wow. I've had my second biopsy. They were able to ger 2 really good samples. They told me so on the day. The date for my follow-up came and went with just a phone call in the morning saying it was taking longer to get the results. I don't handle unknowns without actions and plans well.  I had been able to reduce my sleeping pills and keep my anxiety low, but now it was moving up. 

This Wednesday, no 9am call to cancel my appointment, hurray. As I was walking into the hospital, the call came. "You don't need to attend." I told them I was here, so we sat down to talk anyway. My samples are "complex", they are not normal cells, but they can't tell if they are cancerous. A few lucky peeps each month get to have their samples sent to a special lab / professor in London for them to make a call, or at least assign a percentage, as to whether this is cancer. No idea how long this will take, sorry. The plan is to be called one day in the future. Not next week, unlikely to be the week after. Perhaps 3,4,5 weeks time. Just wait, just wonder, no action plan, no treatment plan until then

I mentally collapsed. I didn't wash, brush my teeth, get dressed. I felt numb.  My father tried to say "lets look on the bright side, no cancer detected yet", but I shot him down. I was probably a sh*t about it.

4 days later I'm beginning to recover. I'm basically pretending nothing is going on at all. Complete denial as I have no dates. At night I can't sleep. I'm now on a full dose (I was on 3.75mg Zopiclone, now on 7.5mg). I tried just the smaller dose, but at 6:30am I gave up with that working.

This is the first time I've been in denial about the whole process now.

I just wanted to dump this here, in case it helps someone else to see a bit of themselves and be reminded to share where you can, live where you can and smile if  you can. Maybe even some humming now and again.

I'm always open for a chat too :-)

  • Wow that’s quite a speech a wonderful truthful one I would say . I loved it especially coming home and thinking of everyone but yourself! Keep dumping I say .Have they suggested another biopsy and no activity on the PET scan????its hard I had a reoccurrence on my original lung scar op  tiny and they presumed it was cancer ,biopsy inconclusive as so tiny  ,but as on suture line presumed cancer, but it’s hard to say I ll go through radical treatment is chemo and 30 radiotherapy’s  but I did because I couldn't t wait and see and I was scared it would spread   . I am just finishing and I survived 6-8 weeks every day and I did start writing my story line you it’s on whoop whoop half way somewhere but people do read these stories and it does help We had nearly 1600 views on ours so far  so keep writing it’s probably therapeutic for you as well as others 

    Jennifer 

  • Jennifer,

    I have another Biopsy booked for the 1st April, but I'm kinda getting positive. Keep going yourself.

    My lump is 2.5cm across, but they have to cross 3 barriers / boundaries to get to it, so the lung deflates and they end up playing cat and mouse to get the lump. There was activity on the PET scan, but it was mild.

    I hope my honesty does help others, but if not, as you say, it's good therapy for me to get it out of me.

    Take care

    David

  • Hi David just checking to see how your biopsy went?Did they manage together to it ?

    Jennifer

  • Hi Jennifer,

    thanks for replying. How are you doing?

    I was supposed to get my results last week, but now it is this Wednesday. I have to admit I got quite down while waiting, so I just went quiet.

    I will reply after my results on Wednesday.

    Take care

    David

  • Good luck tomorrow David ,keep everything crossedPrayPrayMuscleJennifer

  • Good luck david 

    Good morning lovely people. 

    2nd CT scan on 17 April this tear (R upper lobectomy Dec. 2022) recent scan has shown my middle lobe is compressed. Having bronchial lavage on the 23rd May. Letter to GP from consultant described it as possible middle lobe syndrome,  GP unsure what this is. Regular chest infections but one in December this year & a few weeks ago really floored me. Throat is quite raw & my voice is quite hoarse. Anyone able to suggest any ideas on what's going on with me ? 

  • I got the news I didn't want to hear. 2 good samples, no results.  A snippet from the letter they sent is "I mentioned his case was discussed in our Lung MDT today. Preliminary result has not shown any definite cancer but we have sent the sample to a hospital for a second opinion.

    They are aware the possibility still could be a cancer or non- cancer such as inflammation or early cancer like changes."
    Still in limbo.  This really hit my mental state. I was hoping for an answer one way or the other as I know they got 2 good samples.  The idea that it can't definitely be ruled non-cancerous or cancerous they me back a lot.  Part of this is because there is no treatment plan, not even a timetable for the results.  I do not have next appointment in the diary now.
    I'm slowly getting out of the funk it caused and I'm lucky to be surrounded by loving family.
  • Hi sorry that you didn’t get definitive results - i can relate; it took me 5months to get a concrete answer after lung nodules were first spotted, having had a biopsy which didn’t get samples from the right place (too difficult) and cancelled wedge resections. A horrible and uncertain time - hope you get the answer soon

  • Ah David I understand it’s horrible when it's unknown’ You just need to get your body and brain ready for any attack  flight or fight mode and you cannot do that if you don’t know where you are !As you know I had the same with my biopsy but was told I should go for radical treatment ie chemo and radio  even though cancer was not confirmed.Again a difficult decision .I have just finished chemo and 30 sassions of radio .There is talk of immunotherapy but as my RA flared up maybe not .Every step of our cancer trips are making some sort of decision and you are in limbo .So they have sent your sample for a second opinion so that’s why no progression on your appointments until they decide what to do with you ?I m sure that’s why you haven’t t got any follow up .Maybe give them a call to say where do we go from here ?Or even how long to they expect the result  to take ? It never hurts to remind them you are here .Everyone is wonderful but they have soooo many people to care for these days .I know sometimes it takes a long time to see if a sample grows but look we all feel for you and you actually  still sound positive  so just keep posting on here and let it out  if it helps we will all listen 

    Jennnifer