Pancoast Tumour - My Story

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Hi All

I am new here and hoping for some more information, also whilst awaiting diagnoses I have been doing a lot of googling, and found so little on my type. Especially in my age group. Most posts about mine seem to be on behalf of older relatives. Apparently it's rare, and rare as hens teeth in my age group. (34 year old female). So by sharing my story here I hope to raise awareness and should anybody find themselves where I am now, they can google for some information.

I just got diagnosed yesterday (Maundy Thursday).

I also want to raise awareness to get checked, if it's not normal for you, please do not dismiss it as I did and leave it and just think it's part of getting older.

I should start by saying I am slightly more complicated as I also have an autoimmune disorder called hidradenitis suppurativa (HS I call it as spelling and saying it is a mission). This is pretty harmless, extremely painful and embarrassing condition that causes abscesses in sweat gland areas. It is not relevant to my story so do not get hung up on it, other than it helped my cancer hide behind it as I blamed this for some of the symptoms.

I noticed some stinging type sensations under my arm initially, this is not abnormal for me as I also get frequent cellulitis infections as part of my HS. It is my left axilla that is predominantly affected with the right rarely coming to the party. The stinging was on the right so I could not understand why I had no abscess, no bright red skin, no thickening. I dismissed it, it came and went intermittently I kept an eye but it never came to anything.

Around August 2017 I then noticed sleeping at night was uncomfortable to lie on my right side. This went on for a while at least a month or two and wasn't improving. I had gone numb where I was getting the stinging under my arm. Again I did not think too much of this as I had had numerous surgeries to drain abscesses and had noticed nerve damage/loss of sensation in the badly affected left so assumed it was that.

I had also been getting a lot of headaches, which I had mentioned to the doctor previously, they ran bloods and said I was low normal so put me on iron to boost me a little. This did stop the headaches.

Another thing I had noticed and was rather annoyed about is embarrassingly I did not link it and despite them saying always get checked and I didn't. My right breast had changed shape slightly. I felt like I looked a bit sagged, not being by any means are large chested woman I was most put out, but just thought ah that is what they mean about your 30s.

My other weird quirky symptom which again I didn't link is I suddenly started suffering from indigestion/belching which I had never ever had problems with in my life. I just got some indigestion remedies to try and help.

The most scary symptom for me in these couple of months was on and off 3 times the whole right side of my face went numb for a few minutes at a time. It felt just like I had had a dental local anaesthetic. Half my tongue felt thick and floppy my nose was numb down one side and my cheek. At this point I started to google and freaked myself out as it kept saying potentially MS for my symptoms. (just the numbness I didn't think to link the rest at this point). I had also noticed the numbness across my chest and at times down my arm in to my little finger and ring finger.

October 2017 I finally I went to my doctor about another one of my friendly abscesses and brought up the pain in my right chest/numbness across my chest and back of my arm and numbness of face. He suggested a trapped nerve. I was referred for an xray.

I had this the report said I had a very slight narrowing between two neck vertebra and a bone spur. Accepting this must be the cause I went to a chiro to resolve. My insurance would fund 4 sessions which I had and only felt mild benefits. 

I went back to the GP and asked what to do for the best, there had been mention of an MRI but as the Chiro had mildly helped I went for physio which was unlimited on my insurance.

I had seven sessions in total, in the middle I had 3 sessions of acupuncture in one week and that really made me feel better I was getting more and more pain by now and so fed up as I had gone in October and it was now January/February. I thought finally I would be fixed, then we slowed back down to once a week and the pain was intolerable again. 

The physio agreed he had done all he could and referred me back to my GP and pain specialist who would organise an MRI and maybe an injection to the nerve if needed.

I sore the pain man who was lovely, organised an MRI of my neck suspecting a protruding disc. February 2018 I went for my MRI so relieved I would finally be getting fixed. He said that a couple of my symptoms didn't fit that diagnosis but some people are wired differently, He also said that after six months a protruding disc should have healed itself by now, or very near to it.

It was a Wednesday and I was to meet with him the following Monday to discuss. Within half an hour of getting out of the MRI I had a text to ask me to go that evening to see him and bring someone with me. It was at that point my world came crashing down. I knew I was in for bad news and something serious had been found. I was very tearful at first but then went into a seriously calm slightly surreal state about it.

I went to see him as requested and he was gutted I could tell to tell me that the MRI of my neck had actually picked up a mass on the Apex of my lung. I now know that this is a Pancoast Tumor and that it ties exactly with my symptoms.

Also in hindsight looking at my MRI and comparing it to my Xray, it was there all along on my Xray and it was missed! It should have been found 4 months earlier. I am angry about that at times, but also realise being angry won't change it. It was missed and a four month earlier diagnosis could have made all the difference. I had read tumours double in size in four months. But it wasn't and it can't be changed.

He advised I would need to go for several more MRIs of my brachial plexus, thorasic inlut, my spine, chest and head ( I had also been getting a lot of headaches so they were now being ultra precautious). with contrast and a thorasic CT with contrast.

These showed the mass as suspicious and of about 9cm with enlarged lymph nodes.

I was then referred for lung function tests, blood tests a lung biopsy and a PET scan which I had to travel to the UK for was we have limited facilities in my small island.

The biopsy confirmed it was positive for cancer, I have Adenocarcinoma the most common type. The PET scan showed some other 'hot' areas areas for concern. So I need to have more tests, though the enlarged lymph nodes in other areas I think will all be due to my HS as the areas are both Axillas, my groin (which I have had an ultrasound on and need to have a biopsy on to be sure) and my bowels, which seem fine but need a polyp removed, so likely what the scan was finding.

Providing none of these other areas are affected I am a stage III B and they believe at least an N2 as the node in right side looks malignant, so does the node of my Trachea and they are questioning the left side node which would make it an N3.

If it's spread elsewhere I will be a stage 4. Here is a post to how the TNM stages are spilt over the different stages and how they categorise them. cancer relief lung cancer stages

They believe due to the multi layer node involvement it is inoperable, which I am a little relieved about as it's major lung removing surgery and potentially ribs too.

I will have to go back to England to see the Oncology specialist there hopefully within a week or two, by which all my other areas results will hopefully be in. But all being well it looks like I will receive Chemoradiation. I have been told it will be the highest dose they give. Which is where my questions come in please, how long for, how often? We do not have radiation facilities where I am from so again this would have to be done in the UK. I need to plan around this life/animals/work etc and do not relish being in a place for too long where non of my home comforts or friends/family are. 

Sorry it was long, I wanted it to be as informative as possible for anybody else going through a pancoast diagnosis.

But please the main point of my post was, laying all those symptoms together it's obvious, but them appearing separately over several months and being such a rare lung cancer (only 5% of all) and usually affecting men in their 60/70s I am the hen's teeth diagnosis that you see people dismissing all over the internet when people google and panic that they have shoulder pain. Get checked, if it's not normal for you, just check it out!

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Gina, 

    Checking out the receptionist sounds like a good idea- I hope the eyebrow waxing is for him and not the scan .

    The best I can do is shave my arms so that all the plasters they stick on (after failed attempts at the cannula) don't hurt quite as much when I remove them !

    Albondigas x

  • Hi Gina

    Oh buggerastions!!! That was completely out of the blue wasn’t it! And great timing by the Southampton General team. They could of waited until after Christmas! Very Bah Humbug. Hopefully this scan will show more shrinkage. You had radiotherapy didn’t you? How long ago was that? My radiotherapy continued to work for a long time post treatment, with ct scans up to the first year showing shrinkage. It makes sense to me  that they would want to get measurements at this stage. 

    I think a few vodkas are well deserved over christmas. I wouldn’t worry about your eyebrows. I have noticed mine have turned very grey, and I’ve started pulling my fringe down over them Joy 

    Chelle 

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  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to chellesimo

    Oh I never thought to shave my arms, that is a good idea! I swear they put extra special sticky glue on those little round ones. 

    Definitely the wax is more for them.

    Chelle I know the meanies. I was wondering if you may be under the same oncologist as me there Chelle, nice guy I'd say late 40s early 50s. Not too bad on the eye in an older man/doctor sort of way.

    I had the letter from my Jersey oncologist today and it does appear that they are looking to see if my tumour is no longer 'applied to the upper ribs and vertebra'. So probably is nothing to worry about. Yes I did, it finished 20 June so 6 months ago now. 

    Absolutely, though I'll have ciders instead please! Ahh that is what I need to do, cut me a fringe back in, much easier Slight smile

  • Hi Gina

    Hope everything went smoothly today, and the journey wasn’t troublesome. 

    Chelle 

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    Hi Chelle

    Thank you for asking. All went smoothly thank you. Even Flymaybe ran on time Open mouth

    I thought that they would get me to the airport to come back very early, but I had forgotten the Xmas travellers would be out in force. 

    The hospital on the other hand, I have not seen it so quiet. In the summer outside the main entrance, all the benches would be taken and all the steps in the oval too. The main drag you would have to fight your way through for people. This morning I barely sore anyone. It did pick up later morning/lunchtime but still no where near as busy. 

    I had a nice disco nap whilst waiting for the radiation injection to work and all was fine. I treated myself to a lovely Cheese and ham toastie and cup of tea, followed by a slab of cheesecake from the M&S canteen Tried the Macmillan onsite to sit quietly away from anyone I shouldn't be near in the warmth to find they are shut till the new year. I also tried the radiotherapy tuck shop and that was shut too. 

    Not sure if I said but I had an Xmas eve call from local hospital. I thought it was to book me for the MRI but it was for a body and head CT. So that is tomorrow. I should hear when the MRI is soon hopefully. But almost there, as long as they don't surprise me with anymore.

    Hope you have had a good day and festive period?

  • Hi Gina

    I’m glad your journey was good. My daughter works up at the general, and she said how quiet it was today. What a shame the McMillan centre was closed, it’s always a nice escape in there when you have time to spare. The cheesecake sounds lovely though, glad you managed to find somewhere to eat. 

    I didn’t know you were having more scans tomorrow. You will be worn out by the weekend with all these tests. Could they not have done all this together at Southampton? Is your local hospital aware you had a CT today? Do you have to have another radiation injection? Just check it’s ok to have another so close together. I’m sure you are on top of it, just aware it stays in your system for 48 hours. 

    Christmas was lovely thank you. Not one person eating their Christmas dinner thought to mention there was no roast potatoes on their plate. They thought I hadn’t cooked any. I found them in the kitchen after dinner when clearing up!! First Christmas roast without roast potatoes. My family are so polite Joy 

    Chelle 

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    FormerMember in reply to chellesimo

    Thank you Chelle

    I was surprised re the center too, but of course it is run by volunteers so they want a brake too. 

    Ahh, I think I didn't post again to mention it as figured I would bore everyone. I think Jersey will likely prefer to do the tests they can do as I understand they reimburse Southampton for the costs of any treatment Jersey patients get there. Though the CT and MRI are on my insurance. I like to get them to pay for all I can claim so the money doesn't get spent on me if it can be helped and thus goes towards other patients that may not have insurance.

    I did ask the woman when she rang to book the CT's in. I thought it was going to be to arrange the MRI, it was only when she said you are having two scans one of the body and a CT of the head that I realised it wasn't. I explained about the PET-CT being the day before and was there a mix up as surely it was a bit much. She was going to check and get back to me if so.

    I tried my lung nurse but no answer so I left a message. She did call me back afternoon of Xmas eve, but I had given up and it was the 5 minutes I was on the phone to my insurer to quickly authorise the tests. Called her straight back to no answer.

    I mentioned it also to the PET lady today and she explained that the CT part of the PET was a very low dose CT and is only used to back up the PET results. That if they wanted to use contrast then yes I would need another. Which makes sense and seems I will not wiggle out of it.

    However, it does kind of dispute there 'we are just looking for further shrinkage line' doesn't it. I had an MRI of my head last time, but I do not recall having a contrast CT of my head too, just my chest and abdomen. They appear to be checking extremely thoroughly for secondaries to me.

    I have between Xmas and New year off, which is helpful. I had visions of relaxing. So far I will spend 2 of the 3 Non bank holiday days at hospitals. I have a sneaky suspicion they will complete the hattrick by booking the MRI for the final one.

    Oh gosh ha had ops! Believe me if I had been there I would have certainly mentioned it. I am quite basic with food and the roastie pots are the very best part of the meal. Especially when they are done in goose fat... yummmm. Aww it was nice of them not to mention it Slight smile Nevermind, how about you have them for New Years day? It is usually another roast for then for us. Not sure if all are the same.

  • Gina I was mortified. If someone had served me a roast without roast potatoes I would of got up and left. They were cooked in goose fat, all lovely and crispy. Will try again New Year’s Day. 

    Hope you get one day of your break to just relax. I’ve not had a head ct so not sure how that works, but i’ll be thinking of you tomorrow. 

    Chelle 

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Gina, 

    Glad you had a good day at Southampton and one of the multiple scans done , though a shame things were closed and you were " forced to endure  " M&S!

    They really don't understand the word holiday in the medical profession- another scan tomorrow and still an MRI.  We should be pleased but they don't know about our joy of happy  denial and surely they could leave us alone for 1 week! 

    My SIL is a retired SRN theatre sister and was usually on call over Christmas so I know the machine continues ,but the "chronic" need the break and the urgent need the time so an injection of common sense would not go amiss. 

    Hope the day goes well at the Jersey hospital. 

    Albondigas x 

  • FormerMember
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    Hi Gina ,

    How was the scan at your local hospital today ? Did you get any more information on why they are doing all the scans and an MRI? 

    Albondigas x