Pancoast Tumour - My Story

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Hi All

I am new here and hoping for some more information, also whilst awaiting diagnoses I have been doing a lot of googling, and found so little on my type. Especially in my age group. Most posts about mine seem to be on behalf of older relatives. Apparently it's rare, and rare as hens teeth in my age group. (34 year old female). So by sharing my story here I hope to raise awareness and should anybody find themselves where I am now, they can google for some information.

I just got diagnosed yesterday (Maundy Thursday).

I also want to raise awareness to get checked, if it's not normal for you, please do not dismiss it as I did and leave it and just think it's part of getting older.

I should start by saying I am slightly more complicated as I also have an autoimmune disorder called hidradenitis suppurativa (HS I call it as spelling and saying it is a mission). This is pretty harmless, extremely painful and embarrassing condition that causes abscesses in sweat gland areas. It is not relevant to my story so do not get hung up on it, other than it helped my cancer hide behind it as I blamed this for some of the symptoms.

I noticed some stinging type sensations under my arm initially, this is not abnormal for me as I also get frequent cellulitis infections as part of my HS. It is my left axilla that is predominantly affected with the right rarely coming to the party. The stinging was on the right so I could not understand why I had no abscess, no bright red skin, no thickening. I dismissed it, it came and went intermittently I kept an eye but it never came to anything.

Around August 2017 I then noticed sleeping at night was uncomfortable to lie on my right side. This went on for a while at least a month or two and wasn't improving. I had gone numb where I was getting the stinging under my arm. Again I did not think too much of this as I had had numerous surgeries to drain abscesses and had noticed nerve damage/loss of sensation in the badly affected left so assumed it was that.

I had also been getting a lot of headaches, which I had mentioned to the doctor previously, they ran bloods and said I was low normal so put me on iron to boost me a little. This did stop the headaches.

Another thing I had noticed and was rather annoyed about is embarrassingly I did not link it and despite them saying always get checked and I didn't. My right breast had changed shape slightly. I felt like I looked a bit sagged, not being by any means are large chested woman I was most put out, but just thought ah that is what they mean about your 30s.

My other weird quirky symptom which again I didn't link is I suddenly started suffering from indigestion/belching which I had never ever had problems with in my life. I just got some indigestion remedies to try and help.

The most scary symptom for me in these couple of months was on and off 3 times the whole right side of my face went numb for a few minutes at a time. It felt just like I had had a dental local anaesthetic. Half my tongue felt thick and floppy my nose was numb down one side and my cheek. At this point I started to google and freaked myself out as it kept saying potentially MS for my symptoms. (just the numbness I didn't think to link the rest at this point). I had also noticed the numbness across my chest and at times down my arm in to my little finger and ring finger.

October 2017 I finally I went to my doctor about another one of my friendly abscesses and brought up the pain in my right chest/numbness across my chest and back of my arm and numbness of face. He suggested a trapped nerve. I was referred for an xray.

I had this the report said I had a very slight narrowing between two neck vertebra and a bone spur. Accepting this must be the cause I went to a chiro to resolve. My insurance would fund 4 sessions which I had and only felt mild benefits. 

I went back to the GP and asked what to do for the best, there had been mention of an MRI but as the Chiro had mildly helped I went for physio which was unlimited on my insurance.

I had seven sessions in total, in the middle I had 3 sessions of acupuncture in one week and that really made me feel better I was getting more and more pain by now and so fed up as I had gone in October and it was now January/February. I thought finally I would be fixed, then we slowed back down to once a week and the pain was intolerable again. 

The physio agreed he had done all he could and referred me back to my GP and pain specialist who would organise an MRI and maybe an injection to the nerve if needed.

I sore the pain man who was lovely, organised an MRI of my neck suspecting a protruding disc. February 2018 I went for my MRI so relieved I would finally be getting fixed. He said that a couple of my symptoms didn't fit that diagnosis but some people are wired differently, He also said that after six months a protruding disc should have healed itself by now, or very near to it.

It was a Wednesday and I was to meet with him the following Monday to discuss. Within half an hour of getting out of the MRI I had a text to ask me to go that evening to see him and bring someone with me. It was at that point my world came crashing down. I knew I was in for bad news and something serious had been found. I was very tearful at first but then went into a seriously calm slightly surreal state about it.

I went to see him as requested and he was gutted I could tell to tell me that the MRI of my neck had actually picked up a mass on the Apex of my lung. I now know that this is a Pancoast Tumor and that it ties exactly with my symptoms.

Also in hindsight looking at my MRI and comparing it to my Xray, it was there all along on my Xray and it was missed! It should have been found 4 months earlier. I am angry about that at times, but also realise being angry won't change it. It was missed and a four month earlier diagnosis could have made all the difference. I had read tumours double in size in four months. But it wasn't and it can't be changed.

He advised I would need to go for several more MRIs of my brachial plexus, thorasic inlut, my spine, chest and head ( I had also been getting a lot of headaches so they were now being ultra precautious). with contrast and a thorasic CT with contrast.

These showed the mass as suspicious and of about 9cm with enlarged lymph nodes.

I was then referred for lung function tests, blood tests a lung biopsy and a PET scan which I had to travel to the UK for was we have limited facilities in my small island.

The biopsy confirmed it was positive for cancer, I have Adenocarcinoma the most common type. The PET scan showed some other 'hot' areas areas for concern. So I need to have more tests, though the enlarged lymph nodes in other areas I think will all be due to my HS as the areas are both Axillas, my groin (which I have had an ultrasound on and need to have a biopsy on to be sure) and my bowels, which seem fine but need a polyp removed, so likely what the scan was finding.

Providing none of these other areas are affected I am a stage III B and they believe at least an N2 as the node in right side looks malignant, so does the node of my Trachea and they are questioning the left side node which would make it an N3.

If it's spread elsewhere I will be a stage 4. Here is a post to how the TNM stages are spilt over the different stages and how they categorise them. cancer relief lung cancer stages

They believe due to the multi layer node involvement it is inoperable, which I am a little relieved about as it's major lung removing surgery and potentially ribs too.

I will have to go back to England to see the Oncology specialist there hopefully within a week or two, by which all my other areas results will hopefully be in. But all being well it looks like I will receive Chemoradiation. I have been told it will be the highest dose they give. Which is where my questions come in please, how long for, how often? We do not have radiation facilities where I am from so again this would have to be done in the UK. I need to plan around this life/animals/work etc and do not relish being in a place for too long where non of my home comforts or friends/family are. 

Sorry it was long, I wanted it to be as informative as possible for anybody else going through a pancoast diagnosis.

But please the main point of my post was, laying all those symptoms together it's obvious, but them appearing separately over several months and being such a rare lung cancer (only 5% of all) and usually affecting men in their 60/70s I am the hen's teeth diagnosis that you see people dismissing all over the internet when people google and panic that they have shoulder pain. Get checked, if it's not normal for you, just check it out!

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi All

    A couple of people have asked how I am doing, so I thought I best do an update. I thought I had not a lot to say.... but now thinking it over, and you all know I am fond of a good waffle it probably will be lengthy. Sorry everybody, for those with trouble sleeping, I May help Slight smile

    I think I had come home from the hospice since my last update and the scan after full brain radiotherapy showed It was stable.

    Well I had a good week after coming home from the hospice, feeling like I had more energy and put some weight on. It wasn't to stay though and about another week later I was back to being off my food, feeling very weak, a little breathless and the mildest exertion and dizzy. Not really sure why I keep going up and down. It lasted about two weeks and just as I was getting better they have restarted me on the joys of chemotherapy.

    I had a chest Xray before they gave me the first cycle and I have a form for another Xray before the second, so looks like I will have one at each cycle. They really love to look at my insides don't they? I had the standard bloods too.

    It's a different type so I can give you a little on Carboplatin and Etoposide chemotherapy. This one they give for SCLC so my biopsy must have confirmed it behaves in that way rather than NSCLC.

    This type if also a three week cycle. Day 1 - I got the usual flush to start and the anti sickness and steroids before they start. I was feeling nausea before they even started despite taking my usual anti sickness. It seems I can't manage without the anti sickness everyday and need more for chemotherapy, My veins were not helpful and they want to ask for a port or picc line. I then was given an hour of Etoposide followed by quick flush and then an hour of Carboplatin.

    I did get fed which was nice and my Manager was in the chemotherapy chair opposite me having treatment too so I had someone nice to chat too.

    No throwing up yay! Blooming steroids kept me awake though.

    Day 2 and 3 they give you Etoposide tablets to take morning and night and they are the biggest pills I have ever been given to swallow, and no you can't cut them. Lots and lots of water and worrying how on earth I would manage I did. Might ask to be given 3 50 mg tablets rather than 1 and a 100mg tablet for next time.

    I wasn't actually sick but had to take a second anti sickness tablet to stop it and it took a full week to be more than a coach potato.

    I had to go for an injection on the 4th day to try and keep my blood levels even for the next cycle.

    Other than that, no week two so I have nothing for week 2 and 3 which is good.

    So, whilst a little daunting, it's not too bad. Hard to compare as I was a lot 'weller' in myself last time I did chemotherapy, this one doesn't seem to affect me as much but I already felt less well before I started it, so seems to floor me too.

    I have lost the weight from the hospice plus another half a stone, so that is 3 stone since diagnosis. I have been summoned to the dietician again next week.

    I still go when I can to the hospice twice a week for some physio/complimentary therapy/counselling and FOOD. Smiley

    I also have meals and wheels coming another two days a week to bring me hot meals.... it's ok, not great... but hoping it helps.

    The brain tumour charity has organised a cleaner as it's hard to bend down and have the energy with the Mets.

    I had a call last week to go for a sigmode? check as it's been a year already since. I explained I was on treatment and circumstances had changed, so think I have got away with that lovely inspection....

    So for now I need to get keeping on my weight, and to keep going for another 3 - 5 chemotherapy and all the appointments around that. Possible have a port fitted if I refuse to obey. 

    Very rarely get a day to myself between all the people that want to keep an eye on me, it's lovely of course that they do, but an awful lot.

    Then it will be immunotherapy once the chemotherapy stops.

    I think that is everything.

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    So good to hear your update Gina- you have been through so much and still are...... bless you and a big hug.

    I know we compared notes on  the last lot of chemo ! At least your not on cisplatin  this time yuk.......

    I have the opposite to you - gained 2 stone plus since April and keep putting it on.......... cant find anything to wear.

    Xx cathy

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Thank you for the update Gina, I had been worrying but did not like to pester.  It sounds like you have lots of support in place which is good in practical terms, but it sounds tough too so I am sending you good vibes all the way down south, I really do hope you are ok, and the treatment does some good.  Thinking of you and wishing you my very very best , Heather xxx

  • Hello Gina

    your resilience never fails to amaze me!

    ive heard so many good things about immunotherapy so hoping for an easier ride for you going forward and much wellness.

    You sure deserve  it 

    xx

  • Hi Gina 

    its good to hear you have a good waffle Joy

    Sorry to hear you are having a rough time with the sickness and weight loss, but very pleased to hear of the support you have there. I think the hospice has been a God’s send by the sound of it. 

    I confess I did not know what a sigmoid test was, so I looked it up, and now that I know what it is, and hope you have dodged that one. Joy

    Take care of yourself. 

    “Try to be a rainbow, in somebody else's cloud” ~ Maya Angelou
    Chelle 

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  • Hi Gina, thank you for the waffle, it is so good to hear from you.  I imagine we all worry when you are quiet but we appreciate your updates.  You really are still being put through the mill aren't you but it is good to hear you have so much support.  As I'm always telling folk, there is an upside to most things and the upside to this is being able to miss the sigmoidoscopy.  That lovely chef at the hospice is going to have to get his thinking cap on and provide you with something tasty and fattening.  You are being amazing as always. Thinking of you and sending gentle hugs. x

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    FormerMember in reply to Ina Vest

    hi Gina. glad to see your doing ok . you have been through the mill  hope things go ok when put on immunotherapy   working wonders for me. little pain but worth it TC

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Nice to hear from you Gina but sorry to hear that your having to go through the dreaded chemo again but it's got to be done and your the one to do it you have faced worse then on to the immunotherapy it's a good solid plan and all ya visitor's will help ya along I now have perfected the false smile and happiness when I greet all my helpers who sometimes are overwhelming when I'm sick of them I chuck them out ya can when you have cancer and they still come back bless them .look after yourself good lassxxxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Gina, good to hear from you and you  can waffle away, we do not mind at all, in fact I think it encourages us to have a waffle. Life certainly does not get easier for you, let's hope things will be a litle easier when you finish the chemo. I have taken a note of the names of your chemo and immunotherapy treatments in the hope I will get something similar when I get my treatment plan. I am off to Cyprus  today for two weeks and will start my treatment on my return. I am feeling pretty good but have been physically sick quite a few times in the past week, am upping the intake of anti sickness tablet I am still on morphine so had to get a letter from my GP  saying I was authorised to carry the tablets abroad,  cost me £20. GrinI will not be putting that bum exam on my wish list, does not sound very inviting. 

    I wish you all the very best with your treatments,  scans, hospital visits etc, and hope one day we may have a normal life. I know wishful thinking.  

    Hi to everyone,  keep fighting and enjoy the occasional drink, you know it does you good.

    Mick

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  • Hi Gina - Post No. 300 - got to be enough for a book now Joy

    As everyone has already said we love waffle, need to re-read your post a couple more times yet, there’s so much to take in but although things are still daunting for you, you say it’s not too bad, I’ll take that. Good to hear you still go to the hospice being well looked after by the chef. The meals on wheels is a good thing, although it may only be not bad, at least you get a proper hot meal prepared for you so all you have to do is nibble away to top it up as and when you feel like. Hopefully when you get on immunotherapy it will be much kinder to you. Keep us up to date, take care

    Julie