Pancoast Tumour - My Story

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Hi All

I am new here and hoping for some more information, also whilst awaiting diagnoses I have been doing a lot of googling, and found so little on my type. Especially in my age group. Most posts about mine seem to be on behalf of older relatives. Apparently it's rare, and rare as hens teeth in my age group. (34 year old female). So by sharing my story here I hope to raise awareness and should anybody find themselves where I am now, they can google for some information.

I just got diagnosed yesterday (Maundy Thursday).

I also want to raise awareness to get checked, if it's not normal for you, please do not dismiss it as I did and leave it and just think it's part of getting older.

I should start by saying I am slightly more complicated as I also have an autoimmune disorder called hidradenitis suppurativa (HS I call it as spelling and saying it is a mission). This is pretty harmless, extremely painful and embarrassing condition that causes abscesses in sweat gland areas. It is not relevant to my story so do not get hung up on it, other than it helped my cancer hide behind it as I blamed this for some of the symptoms.

I noticed some stinging type sensations under my arm initially, this is not abnormal for me as I also get frequent cellulitis infections as part of my HS. It is my left axilla that is predominantly affected with the right rarely coming to the party. The stinging was on the right so I could not understand why I had no abscess, no bright red skin, no thickening. I dismissed it, it came and went intermittently I kept an eye but it never came to anything.

Around August 2017 I then noticed sleeping at night was uncomfortable to lie on my right side. This went on for a while at least a month or two and wasn't improving. I had gone numb where I was getting the stinging under my arm. Again I did not think too much of this as I had had numerous surgeries to drain abscesses and had noticed nerve damage/loss of sensation in the badly affected left so assumed it was that.

I had also been getting a lot of headaches, which I had mentioned to the doctor previously, they ran bloods and said I was low normal so put me on iron to boost me a little. This did stop the headaches.

Another thing I had noticed and was rather annoyed about is embarrassingly I did not link it and despite them saying always get checked and I didn't. My right breast had changed shape slightly. I felt like I looked a bit sagged, not being by any means are large chested woman I was most put out, but just thought ah that is what they mean about your 30s.

My other weird quirky symptom which again I didn't link is I suddenly started suffering from indigestion/belching which I had never ever had problems with in my life. I just got some indigestion remedies to try and help.

The most scary symptom for me in these couple of months was on and off 3 times the whole right side of my face went numb for a few minutes at a time. It felt just like I had had a dental local anaesthetic. Half my tongue felt thick and floppy my nose was numb down one side and my cheek. At this point I started to google and freaked myself out as it kept saying potentially MS for my symptoms. (just the numbness I didn't think to link the rest at this point). I had also noticed the numbness across my chest and at times down my arm in to my little finger and ring finger.

October 2017 I finally I went to my doctor about another one of my friendly abscesses and brought up the pain in my right chest/numbness across my chest and back of my arm and numbness of face. He suggested a trapped nerve. I was referred for an xray.

I had this the report said I had a very slight narrowing between two neck vertebra and a bone spur. Accepting this must be the cause I went to a chiro to resolve. My insurance would fund 4 sessions which I had and only felt mild benefits. 

I went back to the GP and asked what to do for the best, there had been mention of an MRI but as the Chiro had mildly helped I went for physio which was unlimited on my insurance.

I had seven sessions in total, in the middle I had 3 sessions of acupuncture in one week and that really made me feel better I was getting more and more pain by now and so fed up as I had gone in October and it was now January/February. I thought finally I would be fixed, then we slowed back down to once a week and the pain was intolerable again. 

The physio agreed he had done all he could and referred me back to my GP and pain specialist who would organise an MRI and maybe an injection to the nerve if needed.

I sore the pain man who was lovely, organised an MRI of my neck suspecting a protruding disc. February 2018 I went for my MRI so relieved I would finally be getting fixed. He said that a couple of my symptoms didn't fit that diagnosis but some people are wired differently, He also said that after six months a protruding disc should have healed itself by now, or very near to it.

It was a Wednesday and I was to meet with him the following Monday to discuss. Within half an hour of getting out of the MRI I had a text to ask me to go that evening to see him and bring someone with me. It was at that point my world came crashing down. I knew I was in for bad news and something serious had been found. I was very tearful at first but then went into a seriously calm slightly surreal state about it.

I went to see him as requested and he was gutted I could tell to tell me that the MRI of my neck had actually picked up a mass on the Apex of my lung. I now know that this is a Pancoast Tumor and that it ties exactly with my symptoms.

Also in hindsight looking at my MRI and comparing it to my Xray, it was there all along on my Xray and it was missed! It should have been found 4 months earlier. I am angry about that at times, but also realise being angry won't change it. It was missed and a four month earlier diagnosis could have made all the difference. I had read tumours double in size in four months. But it wasn't and it can't be changed.

He advised I would need to go for several more MRIs of my brachial plexus, thorasic inlut, my spine, chest and head ( I had also been getting a lot of headaches so they were now being ultra precautious). with contrast and a thorasic CT with contrast.

These showed the mass as suspicious and of about 9cm with enlarged lymph nodes.

I was then referred for lung function tests, blood tests a lung biopsy and a PET scan which I had to travel to the UK for was we have limited facilities in my small island.

The biopsy confirmed it was positive for cancer, I have Adenocarcinoma the most common type. The PET scan showed some other 'hot' areas areas for concern. So I need to have more tests, though the enlarged lymph nodes in other areas I think will all be due to my HS as the areas are both Axillas, my groin (which I have had an ultrasound on and need to have a biopsy on to be sure) and my bowels, which seem fine but need a polyp removed, so likely what the scan was finding.

Providing none of these other areas are affected I am a stage III B and they believe at least an N2 as the node in right side looks malignant, so does the node of my Trachea and they are questioning the left side node which would make it an N3.

If it's spread elsewhere I will be a stage 4. Here is a post to how the TNM stages are spilt over the different stages and how they categorise them. cancer relief lung cancer stages

They believe due to the multi layer node involvement it is inoperable, which I am a little relieved about as it's major lung removing surgery and potentially ribs too.

I will have to go back to England to see the Oncology specialist there hopefully within a week or two, by which all my other areas results will hopefully be in. But all being well it looks like I will receive Chemoradiation. I have been told it will be the highest dose they give. Which is where my questions come in please, how long for, how often? We do not have radiation facilities where I am from so again this would have to be done in the UK. I need to plan around this life/animals/work etc and do not relish being in a place for too long where non of my home comforts or friends/family are. 

Sorry it was long, I wanted it to be as informative as possible for anybody else going through a pancoast diagnosis.

But please the main point of my post was, laying all those symptoms together it's obvious, but them appearing separately over several months and being such a rare lung cancer (only 5% of all) and usually affecting men in their 60/70s I am the hen's teeth diagnosis that you see people dismissing all over the internet when people google and panic that they have shoulder pain. Get checked, if it's not normal for you, just check it out!

  • Hi Gina, Good to hear you. I'm so sorry that you have had such a terrible time of it but glad you are feeling well enough to post on here. That is very sad about your horse and must have been a heart wrenching decision but as you say you have made the decision that is best for him. Good that your team are giving you options although that does mean you have to make decisions again which is not always easy. Hope the next three weeks go well for you and that you are able to build up your strength and enjoy your food. I like Julie's idea of a purple spiky wig, that would be fun.  Hugs. x

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    FormerMember in reply to Ina Vest

    Ahh I much too boring for purple fuzzy wigs... but instead convincing people mine had a growth spirt...

    I've lost two stone since diagnosis but i bet I've put some of it back on since the appetite returned.

  • Look at you young lady! Don’t you look pretty! You look really well, and lovely to see you smiling. Good to hear your appetite is improving, hope you have a nice cake shop close by. Smile Xx 

    “Try to be a rainbow, in somebody else's cloud” ~ Maya Angelou
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  • Wow,

    Gina it’s lovely and you look so well, Jeez I’ll have to tinker with that voice againJoy

    New profile pic?

    Julie
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    FormerMember in reply to Justme19

    look at you Gina. what a pretty young lady.  nice smile hope thats how you are feeling now.

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Love the new hair cut your looking good girlxxx

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Looking good Gina ,fab wig, glad you are felling better .Ellen x

  • Wow, Gina, what a gorgeous smile.  Love the hair, you look marvellous.  Keep on smiling x

  • Hello Gina

    lovely to see you looking so well. It’s been real challenging for you but your resilience  will see you through. Amazing resilience and you deserve to be well. Keep knowing it’ll get sorted. Much love xx

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    FormerMember in reply to nel107

    Hello All

    Sorry all for a bit of repetition to start, but wanted to keep the story on this thread.

    4 Weeks after the radiotherapy, I finally consented to go into the hospice for a few days to tweak the medications and to feed me up as was still dropping weight and very weak. I had lost 2.5 stone since it all began and pain in my shoulder was getting worse.

    I got well fed (put about half a stone back on) and they increased the pain medication, a few days of meals cooked for me I regained my strength. They found a lump over my scapula and think this may be increasing the pain and I also get muscle knots in my back. I asked to see a physio whilst there and he has really helped. They added to my painkillers but since working with him I am managing again on paracetamol.

    To keep my experience of full brain radiotherapy I will copy and paste my reply to someone else asking for it here.

    Yes, unfortunately there are side effects, I would love to tell you a beautiful lie that there wasn't any. I think it can cause swelling in the brain which makes any cognitive symptoms you have from the tumours worse.

    For me I was on steroids and anti sickness before it started and within a few hours of the first session I was throwing up a lot and had to get admitted to hospital to get on top of it. They did sort me out but it wasn't that fun.

    I had 5 days and I had the mask made and started that afternoon. 

    I was told side effects of feeling ill would last a week or so, so nearly two weeks on I was still struggling to find some words I wanted I panicked. However it did came back. My short term memory was affected too (though I think it was all ready a little off) but again this did improve.

    I was warned about the fatigue and was told it would be worst at four weeks. I was very lethargic throughout and for a good 4/5 weeks since treatment. I spent my time sleeping and even just lying mainly on the sofa rather than even sitting up. Even walking to the corner shop or even down the steps to my door was hard work, or even standing in the shower. But I did massively go off my food and think part of this was weakness from the lack of eating. A short stay in the hospice put me back on track. They fed and watered me. They also tweaked the anti sickness and sorry to say, the toilet medications to counteract the anti sickness side effects to sort me out.

    My tips would be is my cheek bones burnt from it slightly. I didn't realise they would and hadn't thought to ask about protecting it. Maybe when you speak to your team you could ask if you can moisturise a little to help. Though I have read you must not moisturise before your treatment so maybe later in the evening?

    I lost my hair from it. About 2 weeks maybe less later mine was coming out in handfuls! I have hoovered and washed clothes a few times and I still keep finding clusters of stray hairs. I had a lot of hair.

    I got a wig, not sure how it works in England but I think you get a voucher/help out with the cost of the wig if you ask your Oncologist. I got a voucher towards mine and went with an artificial hair one. It wasn't massively more than the voucher, so wasn't too bad. You need wig shampoo apparently. They girl at the salon showed me the range of wigs, helped me with the colour match choices and told me about how to care for it and threw in the wig shampoo for free.

    As I said I had no energy to even get to the shops let alone cook, so if you have someone living with you, or family/neighbours that could help you by cooking for you and gets some bits in that would be great I think. Or if not, maybe you could make a few meals now and freeze them ready? I would also get in lots of snacky foods in to keep calories going in. I was given some fortisip drinks from the dietician to help me out.

    Since I still get some tinnitus mildly but think this is from the lining of the brain liaison.

    So for today's update. I sore my local oncologist to see what the CT said. My last scan was an MRI so a bit difficult to compare the two.

    The CT showed that since the full brain radiotherapy I have no new brain tumours. The ones I had haven't grown since it. I think that since before surgery the two original sites may have grown since but stable since the radiotherapy. I think this is what was said. She explained that before surgery there was a lot of swelling and this is partly why they affected me much worse before the surgery than the ones that are there now.

    My lung has gotten worse as each scan is showing. I also have some fluid so if it gets bad enough they will drain some off with a needle. I did say I have started a little coughing at night which is new so it ties in well with what the scans showed.

    They are still doing further tests on my tumour to establish if I need the treatment for SCLS or NSCLC as NETs can behave in either types way and they want to establish how mine behaves to give me the best one.

    We spoke about immunotherapy again and I said I have no mutations. I did remined her I had signed up to the SMP2 trial in Southampton but had no feedback (as this could give me possible more options or better options as it tests you for further genetic mutations than the standard). She said they refuse NETs patients on to the trial, so I said yes but I signed up to it initially when I was diagnosed as NSCLC. So this is now also being chased for any results which could help me out for treatment options. It will be Carboplatin with either etoposide or gemcitabine.

    Immunotherapy would be Pembrolizumab (last time she said alternatively Atezolizumab Sp?) But I will worry about those choices later as things may change if they get feedback on the further genetic mutations trial.

    So overall it's good, much more stable than I thought it would be. They really are here and in England doing all they can to give me all the treatment and options I can.