Dad has gone downhill in 2 weeks and not sure why?

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Morning everyone. 

I'm not really sure what I'm asking, really, but I saw my dad yesterday, and he was diagnosed with secondary liver cancer around 2 ish weeks ago. I've noticed he's gone downhill already in that he seems very low and flat and incredibly tired. He used to go to bed always at 10 and now it's around 8.30/9pm. He didn't have any energy at all a couple of days ago to even have a shower, and he just stayed in his dressing gown all day. My mum said he's not eating. He said to me yesterday that he didn't know why he had gone downhill, but he thinks it's his COPD. I think it's the cancer, but none of us know the liver cancer journey if that's the right way of wording it? They can't treat him, unfortunately, as he has severe COPD, so it is on oxygen most of the day.  He hasn't told us anything except its spread to his liver. He takes liquid morphine but says for his COPD? Is the morphine making him go downhill? Sorry to ask on here it's like a new journey for us as a family. My brother lives in Canada and is coming over on 25th Aug. I'm angry at him for coming so late...he hasn't seen my dad for 5 yrs (covid a bit to blame)....I think if he's gone downhill in 2 weeks what will he be like in another 4 weeks???? 

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  • Hi  and a very warm welcome to the online community which I hope you'll find is both an informative and supportive place to be.

    I'm sorry to read that your dad has gone downhill quickly after recently being diagnosed with oesophageal cancer which has spread to his  liver and it must be a very anxious time for you.

    I can't help with your question about why this is happening but I noticed that your post hadn't had any replies yet. You might find this leaflet from Macmillan about dealing with advanced cancer helpful in answering some of your questions. You can either download it or order it paper format if you'd prefer.

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  • Thankyou for replying. I do appreciate it. My dad thinks it's 'since he has found out' so mentally he's gone downhill! I dont know the answers xx

  • Do you know if your dad spoken to his hospital team about how he's feeling? If he hasn't been in touch with them then this would be a good place to start. Also, don't be afraid to call 111 for advice or 999 if you feel it's an emergency.

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  • That's a good idea actually.  I will ask him if he has a team he can speak to. He tends to talk to me now instead of my mum. I found out he hadn't been to the toilet for 5 days and I told my mum she got him so stuff from the chemist and I've also asked him to mention to his doctor as it may be a medicine side effect?? X

  • He should have been assigned a cancer nurse specialist (CNS), sometimes referred to as a keyworker. If he hasn't been assigned one then he could phone his consultant's secretary and she should be able to arrange to put him in contact with a CNS or for him to speak to his consultant.

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  • Hi  

    I'm very sorry to hear about your dad's condition. When I read your post I did wonder if it was mental problems as well as physical. If he is taking painkillers this will affect his toileting and make him constipated. Given that he is not suitable for treatment, is his GP aware of his new diagnosis? It could be worth speaking to the surgery as he may be eligible for district nurse visits. This would help improve communication with him and help with his symptoms. Hope this helps.

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  • Thankyou for the advice I will make sure he is aware of this. I will definitely speak to him regarding the advice I have been given so far. . 

  • Hi Loves I have done a lot of reading regarding the liver and its functions as I had another spread, following my liver resection (partial removal). One of the things it does is store food to provide energy. If your dad isn’t eating, then it stands to reason that he doesn’t have any reserves. A liver that isn’t healthy for whatever reason can’t provide an energy boost like it does when it’s healthy. Definitely contact the hospital and get some support and advice. Sending you a big hug. I know it’s difficult for our families to cope with cancer.

  • Hi Jools ty for replying. I spoke to him today and gave him an update so far on all the advice I've been given and he's going to ask the doctor etc so il let him also about eating ty