Pain and swelling 3 months after radical nephrectomy

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Hi all I am new to the group I have been readingvducussions fir a bit and decided I should join to ask if muscle spasm and sharp pain especially in bed when stretch or try to get up is normal I rang nurse specialist she said its fine ring gp and get codeine  ,it started about 4 weeks ago  and is a pain in the butt,also stomach has gone down a lot but is still swollen just wondered if anyone else had this experience,sorry for the long one

  • Hi Shaz and welcome.

    I am only 4 weeks in (RAPN) so personally haven't had this yet - but I have been reading from others and it seems this can happen sometimes weeks later when the nerve endings start to wake up again/repair themselves. They will have cut through your stomach muscles and it could be that the muscles are "complaining" having now also started to repair themselves. 

    My belly is still swollen (elsewhere here, I've read some people call it a "rugby ball"!!) but have resigned myself to having this for some while yet. It's gone down a bit in 4 weeks but could be a long-term thing, potentially. I guess it will eventually subside - again, I think that's the stomach muscles reacting against the assault they have had. 

    So yes, I think that is normal and from what others have said, I think the late onset of spasms and pain can also occur in some people - maybe most, even, but only being four weeks in I haven't yet had this myself. 

    I was disturbed to have the swollen belly, as despite everyone else talking about "swelly belly" after hysterectomy, when I had my hystero two years ago I had no swelling at all. However, this surgery has cut through different areas of my torso and that will have made a difference.

    Codeine can be a funny thing sometimes...some people are straight allergic to it. Others can get addicted to it if long term - it stops working, as your body gets used to it, so you end up taking more and more. As long as you are not allergic to it, it might be worth a try. If you can get it, take the dispersible one, as it gets into your body quicker if in liquid form (tablets disperses in water) and hits the spot quicker. It was Co-codamol dispersible I used to take, which is I think codeine plus paracetamol so don't double up the paracetamol if you opt for that one. The GP, if you have rung, will advise best on which form to take. 

  • Thanks Mate for your detailed response it makes sense. I guess I was thinking I  had over done it and pulled something as I  felt so good and well on the road to recovery then these muscle spasms started and sharp  stabbing pain and when you just don't know what too expect you think is it right.

    Thanks for the positives  I hall carry on and hope the swelling reduces down more so I can get my regular jeans etc on at the minute wearing bigger sizes as the stomach is tender and they are more comfy.

    Take care and good luck with recovery and feedback .

    Shaz

  • I had the same fear...I walked about half a mile just a very few days after surgery, and that was when I noticed my belly swelling had increased. So of course thought I'd overdone it! too much, too soon. However, the swelling is still there 4 weeks on, and reading others' info, it seems it's a fairly common thing. So I don't think my activity caused it as such. I am prepared that it may take weeks or longer to go down. Bit anxious as I am due to drive to France on 1st July. The one thing concerning me is whether I will be able to get my swimsuit over the bump!!!! - one of my main delights when there is having a pool more or less to myself, as I love swimming but never get to go in the UK (too expensive, and nearest pools too inaccessible). If I try it on two weeks before going and it's uncomfortable, I may have to buy a bigger size swimsuit Worried

    I always wear loose baggy things anyway, normally: cut-offs, for example. I like clothes a size too big as I hate being constricted, at any time. I think I was about 19 when I last managed to get into a pair of jeans!! (Huge hips for my figure) My incisions are still tender but I believe this will pass. I am currently fighting with a rash and itching...third medical visit today in six days, and this time the doctor reckoned it is a bacterial infection and seemed to indicate it might have started when they shaved me for surgery...Thinking I said, but they didn't shave me! I don't have hairs on my belly!!! Anyway - I now have antibacterial cream and a wash, so hope it will subside within a few days now. That is probably also making my incisions feel sore as the rash is around and over all but one of them. I put it all down to the surgical glue, which they glued me up with despite my medical records stating I am "allergic to dressing glue"!! - and the rash was starting to appear about a week in, when the glue was still on....glue was still stuck solid for three weeks and the nurse last Tuesday had to remove it for me.

    Do follow up the codeine suggestion from your nurse, but go via the GP to get it. GP might have an alternative suggestion.