Newly Diagnosed - Cancer missed in 2016 and 2018, have been told 3 months and 2 years to live

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Hi, newbie, I'm 46, female and just got diagnosed with Renal cell cancer which has spread to the lung and two ribs. I'm angry, devastated, sad, afraid and feeling alone in all this. I spent 7 months being treated for Nephrotic Syndrome and had horrendous pain at times. I was told I was 'atypical' and should not have that pain. So self-medicated with paracetamol and essentially got on it with. Couldn't lie flat, so haven't slept in my own bed since May 2022, couldn't change gears or break so couldn't drive, couldn't raise my arm, but hey I was supposed to be grateful I had no protein in my kidney. Eventually I convinced them to get me a scan. Which low and behold, showed a 9cm tumour spread to my lung and ribs. I told them I felt vindicated! 

My Nephrologist requested copies of any previous scans I had and what do you know, my tumour is glaring out on a scan I had in 2016 for unexplained anaemia and in 2018 before I got my gall bladder out. To be fair, although he never apologised for not believing I was in pain, he immediately ordered two types of morphine and instigated a complaint on my behalf. 

Now its incurable and the urologist I saw for all of 5 minutes who broke the news tells me I have between a few months and up to two years to live. I saw him on the 14th of December and haven't heard from him or anyone else except Macmillan since. I did have the chest biopsy last week to determine what, if any treatment would help me but I'm still waiting.

I have a now of anger in my stomach, I can't eat and spent Christmas and New Year in hospital with hyponatremia. I believe they killed me twice already and the waiting feels like a third time. The urologist told me without treatment I wouldn't see Easter, he's known since the 30th of November the full diagnosis and here I am, still no treatment or follow up. I wake up everyday wondering hope much less time I have left since yesterday. 

Is there any hope, my Urologist told me the numbers for more than 2 years are so small they are negligible?

Clinical trials? Black magic (lol), I'll try anything as long as its not in the hospital that killed me (I've been told I need to go to the Regional Cancer Centre in Belfast so that's one battle I didn't have to fight)

Welcome any thoughts, comments, positivity etc 

  • Oh Caroline, my heart goes out to you :-(

    First of all I would say to take the prognosis with a pinch of salt.  This site is full of members who have been advised a prognosis of X and out live it by months and years.  That's because a prognosis is based upon averages and statistics from 5 years ago with no regard to how your body will respond to treatment.  

    You're too young for this sh one T.  Which may translate to you are in a great position to respond well to treatment.  

    Treatment these days has progressed way beyond "try a bit of radiotherapy" for kidney cancer.  My kidney cancer has also spread to the lungs but immunotherapy has removed the secondary now.  have you been referred to oncology?  When my urologist told me mine was incurable I was immediately referred to oncology and these guys (onco) really know the best treatment options/trials etc.  

    Get yourself to the regional centre in Belfast and I reckon you'll see some positivity.  

    There's also an incurables group on here.  I'm a member.  Check it out.  

  • Oh Mmum, thank you so much, I just needed a tiny wee bit of positivity. I'm totally lost in this, I have no idea what is happening next. The MDT meeting to discuss my case was yesterday, I had my biopsy while in hospital over Christmas. So I'm just waiting. The only meeting I had was blunt, grim and offered a zero amount of hope, he never as much asked me if I was in pain so the sooner I get away from him the better. I don't have an oncologist yet.

    I feel so much better now, I've read and re-read your response and can't thank you enough, its the most hopeful thing I've heard since this nightmare began. I can't thank you enough for the re-assurance. Reading everyone's stories has suddenly made me realise I'm not alone and the best form of support is from people who actually know what this experience feels like. I'll be thinking of you and wish you only good stuff.

    Caroline

  • HIya I'm glad you're feeling a bit better.  Also, this bit right now, the diagnosis, the waiting for results and appointments is the toughest part.  There's so much uncertainty.  A bit of a cliche, but it does get better.