Hi everyone,
I've been reading through the first few topics on the 'HL' board and wasn't sure if I should post or not but sitting here realising that not everyones experience is the same and people deal with it differently, I thought I'd post how my experience so far is going following a diagnosis of stage 2b HL a week ago.
A little background if you're interested. I'm a 35 year old male, married with 3 lovely kids. I'm a manager at a busy building company (not many of those about these days!) and I have a very relaxed outlook on life generally. As with many males I'm stubborn as a rock. I don't like to pester people unless absolutely necessary. Something I now regret a little but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
I feel I need to share my experience. I'm not sure why, as I'm sure this story will reflect many others you've either already heard or have been through yourselves. If you're interested here it is.
Earlier this year (around the end of February) I noticed I'd lost some weight. At the beginning of the year I'd weighed in at around 14st 7lb. I'd lost around 8-9lb and my trousers were a falling off me! I didn't think much of it, although I did wonder how I'd done it. I teased my wife that my 'sit-on-the-sofa-watching-TV' diet was working wonders. I figured I'd probably lost it because we'd stopped snacking in the evening like we used to. It seemed to make sense in my head so I did nothing about it. My wife said I wasn't normal. I just smiled!
The weight kept coming off slowly over the next few months and I was pretty pleased with it although I still wasn't sure how I was doing it. By the time June came round I had lost about a stone and a half. At this point some of my friends were noticing and asking how I was doing it. They all knew I wasn't exactly excercising or dieting. They were as stumped as I was and a couple of them said I should consider going to see my GP.
The only thing was I felt great in myself at that point. The only thing I'd noticed was weight loss and I was enjoying it as I'd been putting weight on for a few years.
By the end of July I'd started getting bad night sweats, my appetite disappeared and I found myself getting tired and out of breath quickly. I still didn't link my weight loss to any of this but I did realise something was wrong.
I did what everyone with an internet connection would do and Googled the symptoms. It scared the hell out of me when I saw cancer as one of the most returned results but I knew I had to go see my GP asap to see what was happening.
The first I could see my GP was the 2nd August. When I went he asked me a few questions and then sent me off for a chest x-ray. Later the same day the CT dept of the hospital called and asked me to go back in for a CT scan the next day. At this point I was getting pretty worried. No-one told me anything till nearly a week later when my GP confirmed they'd found a 'large well defined mass' on the x-ray which was why I'd been in for a CT scan. My GP didn't know what it was but referred me to haemotology, who in turn told me they needed to do various tests.
One (painful) bone marrow biopsy, 1 failed medianoscopy biopsy by the cardiothoracic unit (got a lovely war wound on my neck now), 3 CT scans, 1 PET scan and finally 1 successful needle biopsy later I found myself sitting with my consultant a week ago with him showing me the PET scan and explaining that I had stage 2b HL.
I've never seen a PET scan before. Very interesting. Very eye opening. Scared the daylights out of me when I saw the extent of the problem.
So a week later, I've already had my first course of ABVD and the next is booked in for the 7th October. 2 week cycles for at least 3 months. I'm only having chemo. There are multiple masses so close to me heart I don't think they'd dare risk radiotherapy.
You could say this has come as somewhat of a shock to me. I didn't think I'd get cancer in a million years. It's even more of a shock because I didn't feel even slightly unwell at all until later in July. Things moved so quickly, it was really only the failed medianoscopy biopsy that held things up. The NHS really reacted to this quickly and I'm so grateful for it.
So far I can feel the onset of having a sore mouth. My gums don't feel right and my tongue is quite sore at times. Other than that there's nothing happening in terms of side effects but I'm prepared for them if they do come. I'm still losing weight. When I jumped on the scales this morning I weighed in at 12st 2lb so I've dropped a total of 2st 5lb so far. If there's any silver lining to this at least I've lost some weight that I needed to anyway! I plan to try and keep it off once I'm cured!
Anyway, that's my story so far. Apologies for 'War and Peace'!
Hi Gra76 -
Hen here. I am new to all this too! Found out early August I had HL - Stage 2a. I was also shocked as I had not had any symptoms at all.
I am a 36 year old teacher with two girls, 2 and 5 so hadn't noticed being tired as I guess I am always knackered anyway!
So how did your first chemo go? Scared? Worried? I was surprised how ok mine was. I have to have fortnightly for 6 months. I've had 3 sessions.
You can get mouth wash precribed. Lots of people say ice lollies are useful too.
So how are your family coping with it? Are you still working?
I took ages to post and am now enjoying chatting!
Hen
Hi Hen!
The chemo hasn't been too bad so far, it's been better than my worst nightmares had it made out to be. I didn't really enjoy having the last of the drugs pumped into me though, the first 3 were easy but the last one was quite uncomfortable and nearly a week after it was done my forearm is still sore from it. Hopefully that'll wear off before the next treatment is administered. I'm also on a 2 week cycle but they've only got me down for 3 months so far. 2nd chemo session is a week on Friday.
I'd not thought about ice lollies etc to solve the sore mouth problem, even if it is just temporary, I'd take that over what I have now, that's for sure!
I have to say I was petrified about having my first treatment, although once I'd been into the room where it was done and noticed all the people sitting in comfy chairs reading newspapers or chatting away merrily while they had their chemo a certain amount of that fear disolved. Fear of the unknown certainly had a good grip on me prior to that though.
How have you found your treatments as you've gone along? Any cumulative effects yet? That's the one thing I'm hopeing I'll avoid!
While the chemo was being done I felt a little bit sick just thinking about it. I don't like having things poked in me at the best of times and having felt rather like a pin-cushion over the previous month and a half on a regular basis I really didn't want to get poked with a needle again but as this one was the first needle to be delivering something good I gladly let them jab me with it!
My kids are 6 years, 3 years and 5 months old and although we tried to explain the gravity of the situation to our eldest child he didn't really understand fully I think. So the kids are just carrying on as usual bringing home colds and making me poorly with them!
My wife is being very good and not moaning at me for being tired etc. I help out when I feel I'm up to it. My main problem has been the lack of energy and the breathlessness I've been suffering from for the last couple of months. I can't get up the stairs without needing a breather at the top.
As for work, the day I found out I had to go back in for a CT scan I knew I wouldn't be able to keep my mind on anything work-wise and although I tried to carry on as normal my MD told me to take time off until I had myself sorted out. Luckily it's a family run company and I'm off on full pay (for now at least). I've offered to work from home where possible but they're adamant they'll manage without me for now. I'm going to pop in and visit them regularly of course, I don't want to lose touch if I can help it.
You may have gathered I can talk the hind legs off a donkey myself so expect a fair bit of chatting from me too!
Hi Gra76
I certainly felt a lot better after seeing everyone chatting, reading and generally relaxing at my first chemo. One of the drugs gives your girlie bits a tingle – rather sting – my husband watches with intrepedation when this one is pumped in!!!
Re. your sore mouth, someone said taking iced water to sip whist they had their chemo was useful.
Feeling a little more tired with treatments. Pins and needles now and dry skin on my hands. But no feeling sick. Making the most of being off work. Taking my eldest daughter o school, spending time with my folks who moved nearer recently, shopping, lunching, baking, reading.
We also tried to explain situation to our eldest. We spent the afternoon drawing hats and wigs!! She decided that a curly red clown wig and jester hat were my best bet! I’ve been wearing a cool cap during treatment so still have all my hair.
So you’ree knackered a lot then. Poor love. I have been a bit wheezy.
Good you are having a rest from work. I am loving not planning and marking 247!! It’s like being on maternity leave again but without a child to look after! Oh and no breastfeeding!
Well I’m off as we have friends coming round for a curry tonight – I have been so hungry since starting treatment – I am very jealous that you have lost weight!
Chat soon
Hen
Hi Hen,
Hope you had a good evening with your friends! I've very much been in the mood for a curry since last week so I'm envious!
I'm also trying to make the most of being off work although I find myself spending more time online than anything else.I can't go out anywhere that means I have to walk any kind of distance because I'm out of breath pretty quickly and I end up having to sit down every few hundred meters. This sucks because I'd love to go out and kick a ball around with the boys but that's definately out of bounds at the moment!
I'm getting bored of daytime TV. Spent weeks and weeks watching the same rubbish every day. In some respects I'd quite like to go back to work and get stuck back in again but I've been told to stay away till I'm better so that scuppers that idea.
I'm hopeful I don't get anything other than the sore mouth and tiredness.I think the pins and needles you're having would drive me insane so I hope that isn't something I end up with.
I should spend some time visiting a few friends. Infact I think I'll do that this afternoon - I have a friend off work at the moment with back problems, think I'll pop round and see him later!
Speak soon!
Gra
Hi Gra76,
I hope your good today and that you have a nice afternoon visiting your friend.
My partner, Tom, was diagnosed with Hodgkin Lymphoma 2a in May of this year. He found a lump in his neck in April and went to our GP to get it checked out. Our GP obviously didn't like the look / feel of the lump and sent Tom to an ENT consultant two days later and thats when it all started, scans, biopsies and then the diagnosis.
Similar to your experience Tom was actually feeling really well, had lost a few much needed pounds but had been cycling alot, at least 1 hour 2 to 3 times a week, which was more exercise than he had done in a long, long time and we were putting the little weightloss down to that and the fact that we were trying to eat healthier as we were due to get married in August.
Tom has just finished his fourth cycle of ABVD and now has a break of one month before he has some radiotherapy. He is going stir crazy at home as well as I am out at work all day. He is watching alot of programmes on the discovery channel and is now an expert on many things!
He can't wait for his energy levels to return so he can get back out cycling and return to work but he will be off for sometime yet as we have been told radiotherapy can be very tiring.
Take care,
Fiona
Hello Gra76 and Fiona
Curry yummy - ate too much. Lovely to see friends.
I am doing a Macmillian coffee morning on Friday so made a carrot cake and ginger cake this morning. Chocolate brownies and toad in the hole with my daughter later. Ginger cake smells divine!
Gra sorry to hear you are going up the wall at home. I am watching a bit of TV but trying to get my house well and trully decluttered and organised - had a trip to IKEA on Monday with my folks so organising older daughter's room at the moment. Some flat pack to build at the weekend - my husband will love that!!
Hope you managed to pop and see your friend. I have just been on the phone to a friend from school, who I wrote to tell her my news. I haven't seen her since her wedding 4 years ago. Hoping to meet up with her as she has not gone back to work after having baby.
Hi Fiona - hope your Tom is OK. It must be frustrating for him to not cycle. So will I find him on Mastermind in the future with his new found knowledge? Making myself go on the rower for a bit later. Only managing 10-15 mins and I am whacked!!! It will keep hubbie off my back. He keeps sending me links to information about getting your blood count up. Joy.
Well off to do the school run in a bit.
Hope to chat again soon
Hen
Hi Gra76,
I'm new to this too (unfortunately!). I was diagnosed in July 2011 with Hodgkin's stage 2b. I had a persistent cough that never went away for about 8 months. I would go into a coughing fit and it would leave me breathless. I went to my GP 4 times during that 8 months and they discarded it as a flu, chest infection and the 3rd time round was apparently due to asthma..(nope. no asthma whatsoever) and finally I insisted to get a blood test and x ray done. Ta-da! big mass in the chest =(
the next 3 weeks was an absolute torture. I had a chest biopsy, bone marrow biopsy and countless of blood test done (I'm needle shy...) and the anticipation absolutely killed me. Luckily, I have very loving family and friends that kept me company through my darkest hours and made each day a little bit more bearable for me =) <3
So...now. I have 6 cycles of ABVD to complete. I'm due for my 3rd session tomorrow (Day 1 of cycle 2). However, I realised that my worst days are actually from day 6-9. I feel absolutely fine right after chemo and I still have a bit of enegby up to day 4...Then Day 5 I'll start to have nausea and feeling sluggish etc etc. When day 6 arrives, I'll have body aches, constipation and mouth sore.
Also my white blood count keeps dropping and my last count was 0.9 (after day 15 of cycle 1). Doctors gave me 3 days of G-CSF booster shots to bring it back up so that I can receive my chemo tomorrow. Will be doing a blood test today to see if it came at all. I am a bit worried because my WBC doesn't seem to come up at all since chemo...and the doctor said I'm very likely to need to take these G-CSF every cycle. If my WBC is still low despite the shots, they will have to reduce the dosage of my chemo. I'm not sure how I feel about this...because I'm thinking if they reduce it, it means it won't be as effective? Can anyone shed some light on this? or has anyone gone through the same as I?
Got to go now, time for blood test and meeting with Macmillan nurse. =) will update on WBC later.
Hope everyone here is having a better day. <3
Hi everyone,
In the end I did go and visit my friend.
He commented a lot that I look paler than usual and that I should start eatting things to bring my weight back up, pretty sure he was joking when he said I should eat lard sandwiches!
I'm very white skinned natuarally anyway so this hasn't helped. I look whiter than the driven snow at the moment. Everytime I go in to get my bloods done the nurses always say I look anaemic. Don't think that's been the case with any of the results yet but the consultants keep saying my iron count is down, just not low enough to be worried about it.
My wife went out and has bought me some new jeans that will actually fit me (for now at least) rather than slipping down all the time. I've dropped from an almost-bursting-out-of-38's down to a 34 waist. They're fairly tight but I can get into them ok. The 36's I have slide down even with a belt on so 34's are the only option at the moment.
My mouth has stopped hurting for now at least and my appetite seems to have returned with a vengeance over the last couple of days so I may not be in those 34's for long! When I got in last night I snacked on a full box of biscuits....oh dear! That probably covered my calorie intake for the rest of the month on its own!
My arm has also stopped hurting where they put the chemo in from so I'm happy about that too.
I almost want to ring them up and ask if I can get my chemo done early! Unfortunately my next chemo session is a week today so I'll have to wait!
One big silver lineing. I found out that the critical illness cover I've been paying for years will pay out for HL so I've got the wheels in motion on that now. I'm hopeing that'll get sorted out quickly, although at the moment it's the least of my worries. If it does pay out at least I'll be able to kick the mortgage into touch and should the worst come to the worst at least my wife and kids won't have a mortgage hanging around their necks. Not that it'll come to that, positive mental attitude!
Anyway, it's such a nice afternoon I think I'll take a walk to the nearest beer garden and relax with a pint!
Hello Gra
So did u make it to the beer garden then? What lovely weather we're having!! Not too back much beer or those 34" jeans will be going in the cupboard! Glad to hear your mouth is on the mend and u are feeling like eating again.
& a human arm again - well done.
So your cover will pay out - that's great! I am really lucky that I get full pay for 6 months, 6 months half pay.
A friend from school visited with her little boy today . Have not seen her for a year so nice to catch up. She wanted to know the whole story! So coffee, cake, pepsi and more cake later I filled her in. She was surprised how well I looked and was pleased my positive attitude to life was ever present.
It's shit - but get on with - just waiting for my beautiful 2 year old to wake up from her nap.
Have 4th chemo on Wed pm. Where u up to?
Hope all well
Hen xxx
PS Hello to anyone else out there
Hi Hen!
The beer garden didn't get a visit in the end although I did consider it. In the end I opted to stay in and watch rubbish on TV!
Good to hear you caught up with a friend from school, I'm due to go to a reunion that is going to be arranged around me getting the all clear. The people arranging it have been kind enough to put it off for now so I can attend it when I'm at full health again. There's so many of them I'd like to catch up with. Most of them I caught up with through Facebook and that's where all the arranging is going to be done.
I'm due for my 2nd chemo session on Friday morning. Can't say I'm really worried about it now, although I was the first time. Now that I know what to expect I'm quite looking forward to it. The sooner I'm 'through the woods' and cured the better.
Just glad I'm not getting bloods done every week now. Every 2 weeks seems far fairer to me!
I'm not counting my chickens about the critical cover paying out till it goes in the bank and the mortgage is paid off....I'm always sceptical about insurance companies paying out! I can't see any reason they'd decline it though. It's as clear cut as it comes.
I've felt surprisingly great all this week so if the last treatment is anything to go by (hopefully it wont get worse but you never know). I've had all the symptoms disappear and I've been stuffing my face with a vengeance. So much so that I put 5lb back on! Those jeans will be wasted if I carry on like that!
A positive attitude is where it's at. I'm absolutely convinced that I'll beat this and nothing will change that! Chin up etc! Glass is always half full and all that!
Well, it's late. I need to sleep. I've been staying up later and later this week. Last night I went to bed at 2.30am. Time to catch up on some zzz's!
Speak soon!
Gra
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