Recovery not so Smooth! Still can't eat/drink

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Hi All,

I did briefly write an introduction to my situation when I was diagnosed beginning of the year, however I'm not too sure where that piece has ended up! Anyway....

I finished my treatment on 28th April this year for Tongue Cancer. (I opted against surgery and went for - 2 x 120hr chemo sessions in feb/march followed by 6 weeks RT plus Chemo once a week.) 

I have experienced all the side effects quite severely from around week 2 of RT.

I am now 11 weeks post treatment and still 100% reliant on my PEG. Apart from excessive mucus being replaced by an extremely dry mouth in last fortnight; my cheeks, soft palate and throat are still extremely sore and raw. I still have ulcerations on both sides of tongue and inside of lips. The ulcers on my tongue have not eased at all since they first appeared 8-9 weeks ago.

I am still also extremely tired most of the time and find myself droppong off throughout the day. However I am awake almost every hour throughout the night so this is certainly not helping. 

I am taking all the mouthwashes my nurses have offered. Constantly rinsing with baking powder and salt water, and keeping on top of my pain meds; I'm now even now using the Xylimelts to sleep with (these are brilliant BTW!)

 I'm desperate to eat and drink. I know I can physically swallow liquid at least. But even water washing through my mouth due to the still damaged tissue feels like I'm taking a layer of skin off every part of my mouth and throat it touches.

Just wondering if anyone else has taken this long to recover? I'm starting to think this may just be how it's going to be from now on! When will I see the wood from the trees?!

Ben, aged 30, side of tongue Cancer Dec 22'

  • Hi Ben. Lots of people take a good while to get better. 
    We all walk, sometimes crawl, at our own pace. 
    Could I suggest you don’t rinse your mouth so frequently, but do run this past your team. 
    I had Caphosol and that helped heal my ulcers really well. 
    Get your GP to check your mouth for thrush. It’s really common after RT and delays healing an awful lot. 
    Ask if a vitamin supplement might be in order while your there. I took vit E to help me heal. 
    Diet ginger ale and soda water were good for me and helped clean my mouth 

    Some suggestions there

    I hope you find an answer soon. 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I wrote a blog about my cancer. just click on the link below 

    https://todaymycoffeetasteslikechristmasincostarica.com 

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  • I did briefly write an introduction to my situation when I was diagnosed beginning of the year, however I'm not too sure where that piece has ended up! Anyway....

    It’s here 

    community.macmillan.org.uk/.../hi-i-m-new-tongue-cancer-diagnosis-dec-2022

    You really have had intensive treatment with adjuvant and induction chemo on top of RT to a large area if your mouth. It’s no surprise you’re struggling. Do speech and therapy have any suggestions ? 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I wrote a blog about my cancer. just click on the link below 

    https://todaymycoffeetasteslikechristmasincostarica.com 

    Macmillan Support Line - 0808 808 00 00, 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Hi Dani,

    Thanks for getting back so quickly! 

    I am regularly using Caphasol, unfortunately to no avail in regards to healing the ulcers. 

    My specialist nurse and oncogist have both taken a look at my sores/ulcers recently and aren't concerned although they are is taking time to heal!

    No mention of thrush from either the nurse ot oncologist. I will maybe put the question to them along with the benefit of vitamins- I have not tried supplements yet! 

    Its all frustration on my part tbh as I know if I were pain free or at least could see the sores clearing up, I could push on with getting back to eating and drinking normally.

    The wait continues! Thanks for your advice, very much appreciated. 

    Ben.

  • Take care Ben. It’s a long  bloody road ! But it’s worth it. 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I wrote a blog about my cancer. just click on the link below 

    https://todaymycoffeetasteslikechristmasincostarica.com 

    Macmillan Support Line - 0808 808 00 00, 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Hi Ben  I had ulcers along my tongue and cheeks for around 13 weeks I didn’t have as much chemo as you did. I did use  gelclair helped with the ulcers ask on prescription. I also had oxycetaine suspension which I tok 20  mins prior to eating ir trying to eat to help numb my throat. 
    hope this he,so. Yes xyimelts are a lifeline even niw 5 years almist u still use 1/2 of ine every night for dry mouth. 
    Baby steps one day at a time you’ll get there. 

    Hazel xx

    Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz 

    My blog is www.radioactiveraz.wordpress.com  HPV 16+ tonsil cancer Now  6 years  post treatment. 35 radiotherapy 2 chemo T2N2NM.Happily getting on with living always happy to help

    2 videos I’ve been involved with raising awareness of HNC and HPV cancers 

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  • I know from my 6 week post treatment review that S&L are keen to get me in for a 'one on one' but am yet to receive an appointment. My 12 week post treatment review is on 20th this month so I will catch up with the whole team then and put some of your suggestions to them and see what suggestions they have of they're own! 

    Thanks, Ben 

  • Hi Hazel, 

    Thanks for answering my long winded complaints! 

    I have been prescribed gelclair- maybe I should use it more often than I am but it's never really done much for me. Like I said maybe worth another go!

    I will mention the oxycetaine.

    Thanks again! 

    Ben 

  • Hi Ben

    Sorry to hear that the ulcers are holding you back from eating easily. It is a waiting game unfortunately. You are naturally keen to get your recovery on the road and get back to some semblance of normality but it is a marathon rather than a sprint. Hold in there and change will happen and then you will look back on this in a years time and realise how far you have come. It's one foot in front of the other at the moment.

    Ulcers are the worst. One of mine took a while to settle down but eventually it healed and yours will too.

    Sending you best wishes on your ongoing recovery.

    Lyn

    Sophie66

  • Hi Ben. Coconut water is the most comfortable drink for me and i switched to bottled water as tap water still burns and feels like it strips whatever moisture I have on my tongue / throat. I know everyone is different but the coconut water was great for me. Are xylimelts prescribed or bought online? All the best

  • Hi it’s taken me almost  5 years to tolerate some tap water. We live in a hard water area so I still have to filter it . I agree if strips mg tongue. The xyimelts sadly we have to buy online there’s a few suppliers si worth looking for offers. I’ve resigned myself ti the fact I will always need at least 1/2 of one. 
    I also suffer burning tongue syndrome i keot a diary to mind out my triggers ehh h are strong cheese anythjng pickled fermented and most yoghurts apart from Greek   I also rinse with propolis again available online. 
    it helps. 
    We are all the same but different 

    Hazel xx

    Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz 

    My blog is www.radioactiveraz.wordpress.com  HPV 16+ tonsil cancer Now  6 years  post treatment. 35 radiotherapy 2 chemo T2N2NM.Happily getting on with living always happy to help

    2 videos I’ve been involved with raising awareness of HNC and HPV cancers 

    https://www.instagram.com/merckhealthcare/reel/DBs8Y0niJ8N/