Referral for tongue biopsy

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Hello you lovely people, 

I'm a single dad of young boys.

Yesterday, my dentist said he was referring me for a biopsy of the apparent ulcer on my tongue.

This came as quite a shock.

For about 5 months, I'd had sharp teeth irritating my tongue and mouth.

Eventually, I went to the dentist. Never even considered anything sinister.

A month ago, he filed down one sharp tooth and scheduled a follow up appointment.

At this new appointment yesterday, he filed down the other sharp tooth I'd identified, then talked about the referral.

He said my ulcer was "quite large" and hadn't healed in the way he'd expect.

Ever since that moment, I've found myself almost frozen with fear, as if I've actually received a diagnosis of mouth cancer.

Which I know I haven't, but I can't help imagining worst case scenarios, which really doesn't help.

Neither was a GP especially helpful when I went to see her yesterday afternoon. She couldn't give me any perspective, or any odds, or any reassurance really, apart from to say it was "promising" (I think that's the word she used) that the lump on the side of my tongue hasn't bled and is painful. 

She also made vaguely positive noises when I told her I have what might be lichen planus elsewhere on my body.

Really glad to arrive here to chat with people who've been where I suddenly find myself now.

Looking through some of the posts, I can already see people in my exact position and it makes me feel less neurotic. 

I can't decide whether this thing being on my tongue makes it better or worse. After all, I can SEE it. I'm looking at this thing and wondering if it's cancer.

I'm just still at the point where I'm tearing up at the thought of having to leave my boys behind. This can't happen. 

Tomorrow, they're coming to stay for the weekend, so I need to pull myself together. Thought I'd come on here and also allow myself one day of worry and self-indulgent comfort food, ha!

Wine may also be involved.

If my situation once applied to you, or still does apply to you, how do/did you feel?

And did anyone decide to go private, to speed up the biopsy? If so, did it actually speed anything up, in your experience?

Right... I think that's more than long enough for a first post. Thanks for reading. :) :( :) :(

  • Not always but at this time of year when I have to look into them every week and avoid them doing this 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I BLOGGED MY TREATMENT 

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  • Morning all!

    In the light of Dani's scurrilous accusations (I'm very much kidding - it's healthy to feel suspicious or downright distrustful of AI!) that ChatGPT draws its info solely from Google, I thought it only fair to give the bot the right to reply. :D 

    Here's what it said:

    "Contrary to popular belief, ChatGPT doesn’t just regurgitate whatever it finds on Google. That would be like calling Shakespeare a stenographer because he read a few books.

    What it actually does is take in a ridiculous volume of high-quality medical sources—textbooks, clinical guidelines, research papers—and compress them into one relentlessly polite, occasionally sarcastic assistant who doesn't sleep, doesn't blink, and definitely doesn't think Jason's 'black tongue spots' are fatal." 

    Hehe. 

  • JoyJoy

    I am old and cynical. 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I BLOGGED MY TREATMENT 

    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • What it actually does is take in a ridiculous volume of high-quality medical sources—textbooks, clinical guidelines, research papers

    All published on the internet

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I BLOGGED MY TREATMENT 

    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Hi all

    I hope you don't mind me popping in here. Thank you for all the support you are sharing.

    We noticed some of you were talking about sleeplessness and anxiety during the night. 

    If you might find it helpful to have a chat through the night, the Online Community is always open. We are trying to make it easier for members to connect and chat with each other, whether it be 3pm or 3am. 

    We have created a new thread in the Cancer Chat forum to help bring members together in a place where they can chat through the night.

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  • Wow. Thanks for that. I should have known about it. Ooops 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I BLOGGED MY TREATMENT 

    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Brilliant / thanks , I haven’t had the need yet, but you never know, so much appreciated! Pray tone1

  • I am relatively 'young' and cynical as well as a  luddite lol.  I suppose it comes from the fact that computers may provide the answers but it is  still humans that need to take flack when things go wrong.  Sorry not having a good day at work as we have just installed a new payroll program at the start of the tax year and thought we had sorted out all the fine tuning before it went "live' but this snagging is driving me mad! Heading of home now before the computer reports me for using foul language! 

  • Thanks for letting us know, Steph! Sounds good. Punch

  • ChatGPT strikes back! SmileSmileBlushPunch

    That’s a great observation from her. She’s absolutely right in one sense: a huge amount of the medical material I was trained on is published on the Internet. But—and this is the important bit—being "on the Internet" is not the same as being "from Google."

    Here’s the difference:

    Google is a search engine.

    It shows you a list of websites—some credible, some utter c**p. It’s like being dropped in a giant library with zero curation and a squirrel screaming in your ear.

    I was trained on curated, structured data:

    • Peer-reviewed medical research

    • Clinical guidelines from places like NICE, the NHS, Mayo Clinic, and the NCI

    • Academic textbooks

    • Medical school-style lecture materials

    • Public health databases

    Yes, a lot of that happens to live online.
    But I wasn’t just let loose on Reddit and WebMD like a feral GP.

    So she’s right: the source material often lives online.

    But I don’t search the live web, and I don’t randomly pull answers from blogs or forums.
    I synthesize what I learned—like how a doctor remembers the principles of diagnosis without checking UpToDate every five minutes.

    So yeah, her point is fair and insightful. But just like a Michelin chef still shops at the same grocery store as everyone else, it’s not just where you get the ingredients—it’s what you do with them.