Hi all! I am new to this forum having joined today so I thought it best to introduce myself and let you know about my situation. Hopefully I will be able to have some useful conversations with fellow travellers who are going through or have been through this very difficult and emotional experience.
A couple of months ago I noticed I had an odd sensation that something was stuck in my throat. It wasn't causing my any pain or discomfort as such but it was a noticeable sensation like having a hair or small piece of food caught at the back of my mouth/throat that would not go away. Initially, I thought it would pass of its own accord but after a few weeks I decided to have a good look to see if anything was amiss. It's surprisingly difficult to see the back of your mouth but with a torch and a mirror I was able to see very clearly that on the edge of my tongue, right at the back on the right hand side I had a noticeable puffy growth that was a few centimetres in size.
I tried making an appointment with my GP but could only secure an appointment with the assistant nurse at my surgery the following day. As I was quite apprehensive, I decided to get things seen to sooner rather than later. The nurse was lovely but really struggled to explain what could be the cause of the lump and called on a more experienced colleague to also take a look. Both were unable to advise what could be causing the problem but assured me that it was probably nothing and to contact the surgery to see the GP in two weeks if the growth had not gone away so that the GP could refer me to an ENT consultant.
Things played on my mind for the remainder of the day and here in Wales there are significant backlogs for NHS treatment with ENT departments some of the worst affected. As such, I decided to approach a private healthcare provider and was able to secure an appointment with a private ENT consultant two weeks later. This consultation cost £160.00 for those who may be considering making a similar step.
The consultant was very pleasant and listened to my concerns. He carried out a full examination of my nasal passages, my ears, felt for any swollen lymph nodes etc and carried out a detailed examination of the lump on my tongue. The consultant spent a long time looking inside my mouth in silence which added to my concern. After completing his examination, the consultant advised that he was also a consultant at the large NHS hospital close to where I live and said that he had some concerns about the growth (he referred to it as a lesion) and that he wanted to move quickly to investigate what was wrong. He explained that in situations such as this, he would never put patients into the situation where they would have to decide to continue treatment privately (at great expense) and told me to attend his NHS clinic at the NHS hospital the following morning. He told me he didn't care what time I turned up - just to turn up full stop so he could carry out further examinations and consider the next steps.
The following day I turned up at the NHS hospital and was seen very promptly. I was given an anaesthetic spray up my nose to numb my nasal passages so the consultant could insert a camera up my nose to have a look around the back of my mouth and the top of my throat. Because of the spray, this caused no discomfort at all. The consultant explained that he couldn't see that there were any other growths or lesions with this preliminary examination but the growth was a cause for concern and not something that should be there. As such, I would require a CT scan, a biopsy and a more detailed endoscopy. All of this was put down as urgent referrals.
On Friday, I had my CT scan which scanned my neck and chest. This was a surprisingly quick procedure and despite warnings of feeling like I would wee myself from the contrast medium they inject into your arm, I felt no such sensations I am happy to report! I am told the results can take up to three weeks at the moment but my consultant may decide to review the images himself without a specialist radiographer's input so I may have some results sooner than that.
Today, I had a call to arrange my biopsy which is booked in for July 12th. I am hopeful that the results from this will reveal that I have something totally benign causing the lump in my mouth and that I won't have to wait too long to get the results (though I am deeply impressed with how swiftly things have moved so far).
Other than the lump on my tongue, I have no real other symptoms to speak of. To the best of my knowledge, I have no swollen lymph nodes anywhere and other than some fatigue and anxiety I have no other symptoms. The lump does not cause me any pain or discomfort though I am aware it is in my mouth. I know I have been infected with the HPV virus about twelve years ago and that this can be a cause for oral and throat cancers - mercifully, these seem to be much more treatable than cancers that are not caused by HPV infections.
I apologise for war and peace but I thought it would be helpful for fellow newbies to understand how things work in the early stages of any diagnosis. I will be completely honest - having studied my symptoms in some detail, I am struggling to find any other possible cause for the growth in my mouth other than cancer. I absolutely hope that I am wrong but at the moment I am being optimistically pessimistic - I am hoping for the best but preparing for the worst if that makes sense. It's a difficult time for me and my partner as I am struggling to think of much else - the not knowing with any certainty is a very difficult thing to deal with.
I'm more than happy to chat or answer any questions you may have and I would be very keen to hear from anyone who has gone through something similar or is going through something similar at this point in time. This looks like a very supportive, helpful and understanding community and I'm keen to play my part.
Many thanks,
Adam.
Hi Adam welcome from me to our small community group. I’m almost 4 years post radiotherapy for tonsil cancer with several affected lymph nodes. The only symptoms I had was an appearance of a lump in my neck no issues within my mouth.
As you are finding out the waiting is the worst part it’s tge fear if tge unknown best advise I can give yiu is stay clear of DR Google you’ll only frighten yourself even more I had HPV 16 tonsil cancer and yes yiu are right they h p v factor does help with treatment but head and neck cancers are all eminently cureable None of us can diagnose just bear in mind majority of referrals on cancer pathway turn out to be benign , Just try to keep busy until all your results are in, You can always keep popping in here ..if you don’t mind how old are you ? as HPV cancers tend to be in us oldies but are getting a few younger people on now Are you North Wales or South Wales ?
Ps the scope isn’t too bad I have it without any numbing !
Hazel
Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz
My blog is www.radioactiveraz.wordpress.com HPV 16+ tonsil cancer Now 6 years post treatment. 35 radiotherapy 2 chemo T2N2NM.Happily getting on with living always happy to help
2 videos I’ve been involved with raising awareness of HNC and HPV cancers
Thank you very much for the kind words and support, Hazel - I really appreciate it! I'm 36 at the moment - I know that oral cancers are still fairly rare in younger people but my understanding is that is changing with more diagnoses being made in younger people every year. One thing I have picked up on from my research is that more and more oral and throat cancers are HPV related yet we have vaccines available to protect us all from this virus. It has definitely opened my eyes and regardless of what my diagnosis eventually is I will be doing everything I can to encourage people to vaccinate their children against HPV going forward.
I'm based in South Wales not too far from Cardiff so I am close to the large hospitals which helps with any prospective treatment I may require. I was really impressed with the speed at which everyone has moved with my examinations etc - it goes to show that while it may not be perfect, the NHS can work efficiently when it really counts. My top tip to anyone is to try and keep some money aside for situations like this. I think paying to see a private consultant has saved me an awful lot of waiting time and as we all know time is of the essence with cancer.
My fingers and toes are crossed that this all turns out to be something and nothing. You are absolutely right, Hazel - the waiting and uncertainty is very difficult to deal with and keeping yourself busy is the best thing you can do.
Hi Adam. You’re welcome yes I advocate h p v vaccines ti all my friends and our 11 years old grandson is already aware and so are. His friends. Sadly it wasn’t available for many of us snd boys have onky bern vaccinated these last few years.
m keep in touch let us know how you get on.
Hazel x
Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz
My blog is www.radioactiveraz.wordpress.com HPV 16+ tonsil cancer Now 6 years post treatment. 35 radiotherapy 2 chemo T2N2NM.Happily getting on with living always happy to help
2 videos I’ve been involved with raising awareness of HNC and HPV cancers
Thank you, Hazel - the biopsy is the big one to get out of the way and that was booked in today for July 12th so hopefully that and the CT scan results will shed some light on things soon. I will keep you posted!
Hi Adam and welcome from me too. Your story is remarkably similar to mine. I found my cancer myself and new immediately what it was. I am a retired veterinary surgeon. I was asked weeks later when my diagnosis was confirmed what on earth prompted me to look (for look read "have a good poke around")
My referral from my GP was a matter of professional curtesy as he wasn't convinced. It took ages and a phone call to the department revealed that some clerk had downgraded my appointment to non urgent. I played merry hell with them. I had already arranged a private ENT appointment, exasperated with waiting. My Consultant appointment came in on the same day so I cancelled it.
I too had no symptoms. I simply felt strange. My consultant showed me an area at the back of my tongue which he considered normal but you can't stop a good woman when she gets going. I left that department with an appointment for an MRI.
His words at my next appointment were, "sorry but your diagnosis was correct"
I had no lymph node involvement and an 18mm base of tongue tumour which became 25mm by the time my RT started. I escaped chemotherapy.
Lucky you getting anaesthesia for a scope...I never did but my oncologist is pretty slick with them. We get used to them.
To cut to the chase I had a few unpleasant weeks with treatment and recovery and I'm still here three and a half years later
Having said all that, You don't know you have cancer till you know and 90% of referrals prove to not be.
I am in South Wales too but Swansea so I was treated at The Singleton and my care is at The Morriston.
I did have my PET/CT at Cardiff where they have all the cool stuff.
Fingers crossed you don't need us
Dani
Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019
Hi Adam,
Sorry you find yourself here, but it's certainly been invaluable for me after my diagnosis with HPV+ tonsil (left) cancer on 17 May. It's the place to ask questions, air your worries, or just rant! Indeed, the waiting and the unknown is the worst part. Also the various scans and waiting for results can send your imagination into overdrive!
"If" it is a malignant tumour, at your age it's highly likely to be HPV+. I'm 50, otherwise fit and healthy and similarly I had no other symptoms after a sore throat from covid earlier this year, apart from a huge left tonsil I noticed with my mobile phone as a torch! My first visit was with the practice nurse who sent me away with antibiotics; two weeks later I secured an appointment with my GP as still had a giant tonsil/ lump - she referred me to ENT that day and they said I'd need an MRI, endoscope (which they did there and then), and a biopsy. I then asked to be referred to a private consultant and had MRI, tonsillectomy, biopsy (all privately). Once diagnosed my plan now involves consultant/ oncologist (private consultations at Wrexham) + all treatment will be done at the NHS North Wales Cancer Centre (near St Asaph).
I'm starting a 6-week radiotherapy treatment next Monday 4 July (should've been today but delayed due to the radio team wanting more planning time time with the oncologist, who was on hols last week, and then testing)! So, while this is very frustrating, I do want them to have the very best plan from the start!
You may find you don't have cancer, but if you do then stick around and ask away!
Helen x
Thank you very much for the reply, Dani - you are absolutely right about the similarities between our cases. You've really hit the nail on the head when you said you just didn't feel right - that's kind of how I feel at the moment. I think our bodies have a way of telling us something isn't right.
It's so disappointing you had to push so hard to have your case taken seriously at the start but you cannot take a chance with your health. I am a very healthy individual and certainly not what you would call a hypercondriac - but when I saw that lump starring back at me in the mirror I knew I had to do something sharpish and just wouldn't accept the nurses' initial assurances that there was nothing to worry about.
It's a very odd feeling at the moment - I feel very anxious but not really scared if that makes sense? I think it is the uncertainty more than anything - the not knowing one way or another what could be wrong. I'll admit it keeps me awake at night but I'm slowly educating myself to just sit tight and wait for the tests to be concluded so I can find out exactly what is wrong.
If you don't mind me asking, Dani - would you be able to describe the lump you found? Mine is an irregularly shaped mass, similar in colour to my tongue but slight knobbly if that makes sense. It appears to be starting on the edge of my tongue and has spread towards the middle of my tongue. The size sounds similar to what you have described - maybe mine is a little larger. It is hard to say!
I really appreciate the welcome and the offers of support - I really, really appreciate it.
I shall keep you posted!
Thank you very much for your reply, Helen - I am sorry to hear you are having to go through this and I wish you all the best for your treatment. It sounds like a very good plan is in place at least which should help ensure things go smoothly and successfully for you.
I think the moral of the story if that it pays dividends to be vigilant and willing to take matters into your own hands when your body tells you something is up.
Hopefully when I get my results this will all turn out to be something completely benign and can be easily addressed. However, I am struggling to find a reasonable explanation other than the Big C at the moment.
Best of luck with everything, Helen - I will keep you posted with any developments!
PS - I've had a good read of your blog, Hazel and found it very inspiring. You have certainly gone through a lot but it was so heartwarming to hear of the amazing support you received from your family and of your courage and determination in facing your illness
Thank you Adam as I say in the blog it was the only thing I had a modicum of control in what was an uncontrollable situation. Plus it helped family and fiends and thousands now who have read it so worthwhile in the end. As for now I’m happily living my life to the max as we say one life live it.
I am a positive person and once everything was confirmed I just put head down and for in with it day by day
Hopefully you won’t need to join us but if yiu do there’s plenty of us on here to help you.
Hazel x
Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz
My blog is www.radioactiveraz.wordpress.com HPV 16+ tonsil cancer Now 6 years post treatment. 35 radiotherapy 2 chemo T2N2NM.Happily getting on with living always happy to help
2 videos I’ve been involved with raising awareness of HNC and HPV cancers
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