Worried about radiotherapy

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Hi everyone,

I’ve been lurking on this forum for a wee while, but this is my first post. I can’t tell you how helpful just reading things here has been so far. 

I’m only 39, non-smoker and don’t drink much, but was diagnosed with T2N0M0 tongue cancer in January, and have recently undergone reconstructive surgery. In the end, the tumour was much bigger than they’d hoped, so I’ve ended up with an anterior glossectomy and bilateral neck dissection. Pathology results ‘upgraded’ my staging to T3, but the good news is they got good healthy margins and there’s nothing in the lymph nodes.

However, the cancer cells showed as particularly aggressive and, given the fact I got this without any of the usual risk factors, they are concerned about the potential for recurrence. I saw an oncologist for the first time yesterday to talk about the pros and cons of radiotherapy, as it’s not clear cut whether I should go ahead or not. All a bit daunting, because up to now, I haven’t had much choice about treatment. 

I’m recovering well from surgery, with my NG tube removed before coming home and managing fine on a soft/level 4 diet. My taste is largely unaffected and, though not much to look at, I’m enjoying food. My speech is also much better than I expected, given I lost the tip of my tongue, and I haven’t had any problems being understood so far. I’m not really taking any painkillers and I’d say the worst thing is fatigue right now, but that’s still to be expected after a 10hr+ surgery. 

I think it’s more likely than not that I’ll go ahead with radiotherapy…I’m a belt-and-braces kind of guy, and the oncologist reckoned it could at least half the chances of the cancer returning. But I am worried about the potential side effects…I know I’m likely to end up back on a feeding tube, and although frustrating, I think I can live with that, at least in the short term. I’m a bit of a foodie, and have been really pleased to get to where I am with eating within three weeks of the op. I know it could take much longer than this after radiotherapy, but at least there’s a bit of light at the end of the tunnel. I know it will be really uncomfortable too, but the biggest thing I’m worried about is speech. I know it’s likely to set me back again, but I don’t know how much, or for how long. 

We have a toddler, who is coping ok with everything so far. He knew I’d be “talking funny” when I came home from hospital, but it’s upsetting him a bit already, and I find reading to him a real challenge. I know my speech will never get back to normal, but I wonder how long after treatment it might be before I see improvements. 

What are your experiences? What should I expect really? It feels like the right thing for me to do, but I’ve got a long time to live with the consequences of my decision. 

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    Hi Hillfootsloon  (North East?)

    T2N1M0 Tonsil cancer HPV16+ ....Chemoradio finished June 2023

    Treatment is very challenging....a lot depends on radio dosage given, how many sessions and if chemo involved.

    Recovery? Individuals have different tolerances to treatment ...some get off relatively lightly ....others not so lucky.

    • IMO PEG tube feeding helps recovery..... 
    • Radiotherapy? after week 3 things usually take a turn for the worse....ulcerated mouth and throat makes eating and drinking very difficult....if not impossible
    • After completion of treatment recovery is slow ...speeds up after a couple of months.
    • Taste? ....slowly returns ....I still see improvements after 9 months....

    Peter

  • Hi Peter,

    I had chemoradiation treatment four years ago for nasal cancer which entailed two doses of chemotherapy and six weeks of radiotherapy treatment to my face and neck. This resulted in me not being able to eat or drink and I had an peg tube fitted. The treatment did not affect my speech, but it did affect my swallowing and taste. However, my swallowing has returned to normal and my taste is not too bad now, I can even tolerate salt and vinegar now, I have never eaten spicy food, so don’t have problem with that. Like you I wasn’t sure about having the treatment at first, but decided it would be best and now four years on I am happy I did. The treatment is hard but the sense of accomplishment at the end of it and ringing the bell is worth it as well. Ultimately the decision is yours. Don’t hesitate to contact me if you have any questions and I wish you all the best for the future. Hope to hear from you shortly.

    Lady66H
  • Hi Hillfootsloon, welcome to the group. It's really hard to advise people, in which way to go treatment wise, as we all think about things differently.  The way I viewed it was, the team looking after me, did this every day, so whatever they suggested to do, was good enough for me, also I wanted to get rid of this awful disease, so I wanted to throw everything at it, to get rid of it.

    Ray. 

  • Hi. Radiotherapy is tough but  i was 61 had 35 radiotherapy sessions my cancer was tonsil I’ve a friend whose diagnosis was similar to yours I’ll tag her she might pop in. If I say 6 minth iater she was eating a Michelin star tasting menu that might help yiu. Personally I’m a belt n braces girl as well.   

    hazel xx

    Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz 

    My blog is www.radioactiveraz.wordpress.com  HPV 16+ tonsil cancer Now  6 years  post treatment. 35 radiotherapy 2 chemo T2N2NM.Happily getting on with living always happy to help

    2 videos I’ve been involved with raising awareness of HNC and HPV cancers 

    https://www.instagram.com/merckhealthcare/reel/DBs8Y0niJ8N/

  • I saw an oncologist for the first time yesterday to talk about the pros and cons of radiotherapy, as it’s not clear cut whether I should go ahead or not. All a bit daunting, because up to now, I haven’t had much choice about treatment. 

    What does your oncologist say?

    Sorry but I’m going to a little brutal here  

    Something I might consider is a second opinion. To my mind we are all different and how one of us handled such an important decision has little bearing on your pathology. 
    Another expert can simply see your notes and scans. There’s no need to see you in person. 
    Unfortunately there are people who had no RT and were fine and others who had recurrence. 
    Yes, if it was me I would go for a second opinion at a major cancer centre excelling in treatment of HNC. 
    Best wishes 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

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  • Hi there 

    As RadioactiveRaz says, this sounds very similar to my diagnosis in 2020

    T3N0M0 with reconstruction from left calf. Good margins hrt the histology wasn’t good.

    My oncologist essentially said it was “up to me”! - so I went for a second opinion from the Royal Marsden. who absolutely advised to go ahead.

    i won’t pretend that it’s not hard, but it IS doable - and means that you know that you’ve done your utmost to prevent a recurrence, which is angsty enough anyway.

    This was the time where I was most uncertain. The surgery was life-saving and non negotiable; the Radiotherapy was a “choice”.

    I’ve pulled together a fact sheet about everything I could about Radiotherapy . I’m happy to forward it to you directly if you like. I’ll PM you

    s

  • Thanks, Peter. Yes, back in the central belt now, but lived in Aberdeen for 10 years. 

    I don’t know much about dosage yet, but I know radiotherapy will be five days a week for six weeks…no chemo necessary for me.

    Good to hear about your experience…it’s in line with what the oncologist explained to me.

    Hope your recovery continues, all the best!

  • Thanks, Lady66H…that’s quite encouraging. Glad to hear how things panned out for you, sounds like it was all worthwhile. Thanks for your support!

  • Thanks, Ray. That’s kind of where I’m at…my surgeon surprised me when he said it wasn’t a clear cut decision, and I hoped it would become more obvious after speaking to the oncologist…which it did. 

    I trust them, and the numbers stack up, which kind of makes the decision for me. 

  • Thanks, Hazel…that really does help. I know everyone is different and we can’t predict how we’ll respond to it, but it is encouraging to hear good news stories after having all the potential side effects laid out.