Ulcer turned cancerous.

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Hi,

 

I had a denture fitted last May.

 

Seemed like a good fit but I became aware of a pointed tooth rubbing on my tongue. Put up with this for a few weeks as the dentist said that dentures took time to get used to and could be painful - any problems rinse with salted water.

 

After a few weeks I stopped wearing the denture and had the offending tooth filed down but by then an ulcer had formed on my tongue.

 

Tried dealing with it in the usual way, Bonjela, salted water, etc, but nothing shifted it and it formed a growth/lump.

 

Went back to the dentist who referred me to a Maxillo facial unit where a biopsy was carried out. The ulcer had turned cancerous - didn't even know this was possible.

 

The lump was very small so when they did the biopsy they just cut the whole thing out there and then.

 

I've since had both an MRI and CT scan and both have come back clear.

 

The consultant said it was very small and caught early. He said I could now choose to do nothing, just leave it and they'll monitor me but he recommended I have an op to remove a bit more of the area on my tongue (a margin cut) and a node removed - just to be as safe as possible.

 

So that's what I'm going to do and this should happen soon.

 

Back in December when I was given the result of the biopsy, I did give them the whole denture story but the consultant just shook his head and said cancer wouldn't grow this quickly (6 months). He then looked back at his laptop screen and said "well… it says cancer".

 

I'm confused, I got a denture which damaged my tongue - an ulcer formed which turned cancerous according to the biopsy.  I had no issues with my tongue prior to denture.

 

Someone on another forum who seems to know their stuff said this is incredibly rare and usually only happens if the injury is caused repeatedly over extended periods of time.

 

Mine was a one of injury with a timescale of 5 to 6 months.

 

How does cancer work, was it just sitting in my tongue waiting for something sharp like a badly made tooth denture to come along and prod it into life?

  • Hi bright and welcome. My neighbour had the same as you. Just a bit if her tongue cut out and she’s fine. 
    Nothing prodded your cancer into life. Cancer has a life of its own. Most cancers further back in the throat are due to HPV virus, not many tongue cancers are. It’s just bad luck. Tongue cancer is on the rise even in youngsters so there is something driving them, something that has changed fairly recently whether it’s diet lifestyle or something else, who knows. 
    Anyway. The person to ask is your consultant. 
    So pleased you’ve got away lightly. Well done 

    Dani 

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    FormerMember in reply to Beesuit

    Hi Beesuit, I'm seeing a consultant Monday. I'm going to type out what happened and what I want to know as I always forget when I'm there sat in the room. Thanks

  • Hi. Yes it’s always handy to type the questions out. Do two copies and give one to your consultant. Good luck and let us know how you get on. 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

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    Hi brightke

    I had tongue cancer just over 3 years ago I thought it was an ulcer but it was caught early and I only needed surgery and a neck dissection and, so far, so good. It’s being told that throws you, it did me, but the cancer teams are all amazing.  I’ve not had to make any life changes so, fingers crossed for you, you’ll be able to write the same in a couple of years time. Take care

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Smee19,

    When you thought it was an ulcer - was it something that just appeared or did you damage your tongue like I did with  a denture?

  • When you thought it was an ulcer - was it something that just appeared or did you damage your tongue like I did with  a denture?

    Maybe your tongue was damaged because cancer was already there but unseen? That’s a possibility 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

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    FormerMember in reply to Beesuit

    Yes, I guess that's a possibility. I'm seeing a consultant Monday and this time I'm going to make sure I ask the questions that are bugging me.

  • Hi

    Sorry to hear about what’s going on with you. 
    It’s strange isn’t it. I was eating a piece of crusty bread and a pice of the bread stuck in the roof of my mouth which caused a fairly big blood blister. Didn’t bother me really but after a couple of weeks it disappeared then reappeared 5 times over a period of about 9 months or so. 
    just looked like an ulcer to start with so I ignored it. Then on the 5th time it appeared I had a right good look with a magnifying light and saw it looked different, blue/purple on 1 half and white in the other. It certainly did not look right. To cut a long story short I had a biopsy whilst awake and they dropped some of the tissue either down my throat or up the suction machine (it happens I suppose), my biopsy came back benign. I then was advised to have it removed which I did under anaesthesia. The sample showed adenoid cystic carcinoma. I’ve since had neck dissection, left maxillectomy with reconstruction of palate and maxilla with free flap from left forearm. Prev fit and well non smoker, not big drinker
    when I asked-they said it’s one of those things, never know sometimes what causes cancer?? Was it there before the crusty bread speared my palate , was it something else?? Never know ??? 
    So I think yes injury can lead to cancer. 
    good luck with your procedure 

    elaine

  • I completely understand you trying to seek a precise explanation of why you got cancer, but in many cases it just happens to happen, and we may end up associating it with something that is quite coincidental.

    Logically, if a denture could rub a sore that could turn cancerous within months, or any other minor injury to the mouth could quickly turn cancerous, then such cancers would be incredibly common, and they aren’t.

    I don’t know what predisposed me to a mouth cancer. Was it the toothpaste I used, a dental treatment, something I ate, something genetic, something to do with my immune system?

    Smoking and heavy drinking are the most common causes of mouth cancer, apparently, and I did neither.

    My (admittedly non medical) view is that a denture is unlikely to create a cancer, although it may help draw attention to one that was destined to happen anyway.

    Sometimes cancer happens without a single obvious cause.

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    No denture but it felt like I had a sharp tooth rubbing on my tongue for about 2 months before I noticed the ulcer. And I seemed to have a sore throat that wouldn’t go away.