Successful Mouth Radiotherapy Treatment but 4months on still no taste or saliva

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Having successfully undergone 30 Radiotherapy fractions between Oct and Nov 2020 - 5months on I am still really struggling with my eating. As much as the irritation has subsided immensely at the back of my mouth, although the slightest hint of heat has me sweating through my eyeballs, I am still really struggling with lack of taste and a constant dry mouth. I appreciate there is no real treatment for these side effects but wondered what experiences ppl have had following this form of treatment and how long this may go on foe - even though we all heal individually at different speeds. Everything thing needs to be full of sauce and moisture and there are still may things I can't eat - bread, meat, biscuits etc - as it is just too dry to chew and swallow - which has been great to help me loose some timber - the only good thing after surviving the treatment to come out of this situation. I have bought Life Kitchen by Ryan Riley which has been helpful but I am just reaching out to the community to share experience and look for advise. Thanks for any help

  • Hello Bodypump; I feel for you, it's a frustrating time. As you say we're all different but I can tell you a bit about how it was for me, I struggled for a long time post chemo and RT in 2014. Crumpets with Marmite were my staple diet for ages, but I got to about nine months in when I had an appointment with my consultant and things still weren't great, so I asked about it and he said that it was unlikely to get any better after than length of time, which was a bit depressing but I thought OK I can live with it. Weirdly from that moment on it got dramatically better very quickly, possibly it was a mental thing because I'd given up hoping it would get better, I don't know.

    I never got back to the portion sizes I'd eaten before diagnosis but I could eat pretty much anything and get a degree of pleasure from it. I'm currently, after a second diagnosis last year, "learning" to eat again (my throat's been re-plumbed) after six months of tube feeding. Strangely my taste is now better than it's been at any time since 2013 and I can even eat a curry! I've also developed a sweet tooth (which I've never had in my life) and am eating loads of chocolate and cheesecake.

    Really I'd advise not putting pressure on yourself to make things happen quickly, experiment with different foods and have a look at this website, it's quite new but I've found it really useful, good luck.

    https://sprinkleofsalt.co.uk/

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  • Hi BP 

    welcome to the community. 
    There are ways to help stimulate surviving salivary function. 
    You could try sugar free chewing gum which helps a lot if people. 
    Acupuncture is another. If you check my blog out there are two sections on it. 
    You could ask about a drug called pilocarpine but there are significant side effects 

    If you have some saliva using xylimelts help stop you drying up at night. 

    As for food my taste was definitely on the back burner for a year but has improved. It’s really frustrating to find something unpleasant that you could eat the previous week. Bread and chicken is difficult for lots of people for a long time and meanwhile it’s just a question if adding moisture. 
    For lunch I’ve eaten a chunky ham sandwich with lettuce and tomato and a packet of crisps. It does largely come back. 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

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    Former Member in reply to MikeO

    Mike, thank you so much for posting that website link. It’s just what I’ve been looking for

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    Thanks for the info and shared experience - yes taking the pressure off myself is the big one - its just frustrating that I've had success from something I couldnt feel to losing something I most definitely could

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    Thank you, Bodypump I have got a free booklet of his from World Cancer Research Fund. I don’t know about the book but a lot of the recipes have chilli in them but you could just leave it out. I have found sweet things taste better than savoury but of course we have to be careful of our teeth now so you can’t win! I have been treating myself occasionally to M&S Tiramisu (other supermarkets are available)- the added bonus is you can really taste the alcohol in it! I also like their deli stuff-artichoke hearts in oil are good, you can soak the oil into bread and it makes it much easier to eat. I too finished my treatment mid November and not having the same sense of taste has been the worst part for me, I’ve always been someone who lives to eat rather than eats to live and it’s also inextricably linked to my enjoyment of travelling. My husband does most (ok, ALL) of our cooking and like most families we tend to have the same old tried and trusted meals all the time. So far I’ve lacked the motivation to branch out but I’m hoping that expanding my range and using different herbs and spices will stimulate my tastebuds. I was told that it would be as good as it’s going to get by 18months post treatment so we’ve got plenty of time for improvement yet. 

  • I was told that it would be as good as it’s going to get by 18months post treatment so we’ve got plenty of time for improvement yet. 

    Improvements continue well after that so don’t despair. 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

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    Oh Dani, what would we do without you? Always so positive and reassuring xx

  • Hi bodypump

    Welcome to our small community, well done on completing treatment.

    Can’t add to what the others have said apart from I am 33 month  post radiotherapy for tonsil cancer with several affected lymph nodes snd am still noticing small improvement s on what I can eat so improvements still happen. I too had acupuncture I found it did kickstart my saliva into action. Ok it’s not back to normal but it pretty good. Unfortunately for a  while it is eat to live not live to eat. Once I accepted that it was easier .
    It’s early days for you we’ve all been there it’s not pleasant , food plays such a huge part  of our lives. It’s a basic need thats been taken away. 
    Bread and meat are usually difficult for every. I now can eat most meat and fish plus breads. 
    My blogs detailed below you might pick up some tips. 
    good luck Hazel 

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  • Hi Bodypump

    You are still in the very early stages of recovery so please don't despair on the eating front.  I had terrible problems with my taste where almost everything tasted vile, including all sauces etc so I ended up eating just a couple of things that tasted of absolutely nothing.  At 4 months post treatment I was suddenly able to taste some cooked carrot.   Very gradually other foods began to become more acceptable as my taste and saliva improved but it did take a long time.  

    As Mike advises, don't put pressure on yourself but do keep gently experimenting every day.  It is frustrating but you really will slowly find improvements.

    All the best.

    Linda x