Hi all,
I've not updated much on where we are at these days because I feel the honest answer is "I don't know." When folk ask me how things are my standard reply has become "I am. He is. We are." People with no experience of these tumours just don't get it. Thank goodness for you guys!
Tomorrow is the London Marathon and I guess that's proving to be a reminder of how much has changed in the 6 months since that race was last run. The 2022 race was at the start of October last year and was my other half's last big race. I mentioned it at the time but he was raging with his time. He was 18 minutes outside where he wanted to be to get a PB and a "good for age" classification. He ran the race, with 2 new GBMs growing plus the inactive remains of the original tumour, in 3:33:34. Incredible time! Incredible feat! He has no recollection of the race from about mile 14.... scary...very scary... He doesn't remember running down The Mall and crossing the line.
That night he entered the 2023 Manchester Marathon, with the goal of that PB set in his sights... That race was last week and his race number went into the trash the other day. Neither of us have mentioned it.
Reading everyone's tales on here does make me realise that to an extent we've "got off lightly" so far with the devastating effects that GBM has brought. Physically he's still in great shape. Mentally is an entirely different story and that's as hard to face, perhaps harder in some respects. I sometimes wonder if in some ways this journey might have been easier if the impact had been physical rather than cognitive ... then I count our blessings that it wasn't.
I do wonder more and more these days about how often I need to lose him before this finds its natural end. He's not the same person he was. He's not the person I married all those years ago. He's not been the same person since a seizure two days before his surgery. That left a "new" person in its wake that we got to know and love, then the GBM began to make its presence felt and that person changed too. That person has changed several times over the past 32 months. When he agreed to take the prescribed steroids a few weeks ago after the final call with the oncologist which saw us passed into the care of the local palliative nurses, a previous version of him was restored but now the benefits of the drugs are waning and we're losing him all over again. If the Dr suggests upping the dose it might improve things...but then we'll just need to go through losing him another time....and maybe another after that..... It's beyond cruel
At the end of February we were told to prepare for the worst because of the way his tumours have merged and grown. The oncologist suggested if it grew into the brain stem (its touching it) then we would have days but if it continued to move backwards and across to the other hemisphere then we would have a few weeks or 2-3 months at best....the just in case drugs continue to sit quietly on top of the fridge. Come Monday, we're 8 weeks into that timeline.
As I mentioned, physically he's still in incredible shape - he ran about 4 miles today and has walked another 7 or 8. His eyesight is all but gone in the right eye and seems to be diminishing in the left. He moves about the house holding onto the furniture. He has limited use of his right hand. He really struggles to go up and down the stairs but refuses all help. He's walking like a Thunderbirds puppet in slow motion in the house yet outdoors he's striding it out. Go figure! There's no reasoning with him. When he goes out he wont tell me where he's planning to go. When he comes back most of the time he doesn't know where he's been...or can't tell us where he's been. He misunderstands everything we say. He takes things totally the wrong way and sulks like a child. He can't read. He cant write. He can't follow anything other than a simple conversation. He struggles to follow the storyline in films and TV shows. His short term memory is gone. He's very restless. He's nippy and quite nasty a lot of the time...
I've long since lost the person I married.... I just wonder how much longer before I lose this version of him too.
I'm sorry if this all sounds doom and gloom as that's not really like me. I'm a realist though. I've long since accepted that this won't have a happy ending but this life he's trapped in is cruel and there's not a thing anyone can do about it. That tears me apart. Watching my kids see their dad go through this tears me apart...it's tearing them apart too.
I guess what I'm trying to say here is stay strong. This rollercoaster ride takes its toll.... Take care of yourselves as well as your loved ones.
Thanks for being there for me. I do appreciate it.
love n hugs to you all
Wee Me xx
I don’t know what to say to this Wee Me it’s so heartfelt and I feel for you so much. I can only say good luck and you are amazing for all you have done to support your husband. You are also truly amazing for all the support you give on these forums to people like me who are newer to this and are so grateful for your kind words and wise advice.
Sending huge hugs.
H
Hi Wee Me,
I feel the same. I am losing chunks of my husband all the time. I grieve at every stage.
His mobility is awful. We can just manage the stairs at the moment and I am getting a stairlift installed. We are both scared of the day he cannot do the stairs so would need a bed downstairs. That would be a separation that I fear the most so the stairlift is scheduled. We are using wheelchairs in the house, we just have to safely work out how to go outside with it as our outside steps are steep.
Although his short term memory is bad he can watch the TV and follow the story for now. He knows where is is and who I am but I know I will lose this part of him soon. His personality is still there but he does get very scared.
I guess we adapt to each version we get and hold onto glimpses of the man we married. I cry a lot. My escape valve was always the distraction of my job - I am a nurse - and until now have been able to continue to work with a combination of on site and remote work but now I am on long term leave. I need time with my husband but also will need time after the enevitable occurs to grieve.
I can only send you a virtual hug but it is heart felt.
Sulubee
Oh WeeMe I know it's just beyond cruel. It's so hard to be given glimpses of our partners as they were only to have them stolen away again repeatedly. I can sometimes sit at the kitchen table with my wife and have fairly normal conversation. The next minute she'll be trying to get the dinner ready at 10am because time has stopped making any sense to her.
Your husband still running is amazing but I can completely empathise with how terrifying it must be for you every time he goes out in case something happens.
Hang on in there and I'm also sending more hugs
Chris xx
Hi Wee Me, what an endurance test you are all going through. It seems that your husband's incredible physical shape is driving his exceptionally longer than average time with Gbm
. Reading everyone's experiences they are similar but with all the idiosyncrasies of the brain itself. The mood changes swing, the personality changes but still with glimpses of the same person.
It's 's difficult to dissociate yourself. As you mention the steroids are amazing but I think accelerate some mood changes. You seem to have set up a good coping mechanism to recognise the changes. With my husband the changes were more insidious, he remained articulate up to the last weekend, but was very depressed.
Sending out a million hugs to you and your family. It's so so tough, and you know there's no happy ending, so just be there together and on this forum everyone is backing you
I am so sorry Wee Me. I can't really offer any words of comfort but can completely relate. We've have a similar experience whereby upping the steroids seems to do a great job for a short while, but then a decline follows and it's like grieving all over again.
I just wanted to say I am thinking of you xx
This is so very hard, Wee Me I am the patient, not the caregiver but still have enough insight to see the toll it is taking on my daughter. (I am widowed). For the moment, my deficits are physical, more than cognitive. Upping the steroids has helped, but as you say, for how long. Sending you many hugs and thanks for your generous support to us all.
Hey Wee Me,
Thank you for the comprehensive update. I often wonder how people are getting on these forums.
It is amazing how different everyone's experiences are and yet how many common threads run through them. I have often commented on the number of times I have had to say goodbye to Fi - and it is agony every time. (I think we did the last big one on Saturday with the scattering of her ashes in her favourite place.)
I recognise lots of what you are saying. I love how we all feel we need to be grateful for the small mercies. And I think that is right. And I think it is awful.
Again... I am further down the road than many of you carers. I have had all the same self-doubts, anxieties, upsets and worries about the future that you are having. And I can only reiterate... keep doing what you are doing. You are doing an utterly amazing job - unconditional love to someone who right now lacks the capacity to return it. What an amazing gift you are giving him... and, when you step back, what a privilege to be able to love someone like that. I know it is hard to see it from the trenches - but there really is a majesty and a beauty in the love that you are showing to your husband. And that is what is going to get you through - and that will be your comfort when all is said and done.
And I believe that your kids are seeing all that too, and I believe that they will come through it in much the same way. My teenage girls continue to amaze me and continue to be my main support because no-one knows what we went through as much as they do.
I hope you have people around you holding you up. I spent yesterday with a friend I haven't seen for 18 years and was telling him about last year. Two of the four times I dissolved into tears were when I told him about the unbelieveable kindness we experienced from friends, neighbours, colleagues, nurses, and a GP, who enabled me to keep on caring for my wife even when it felt beyond possible. I still don't know what I'd have done without them - I hope you have the ability to call in the reinforcements from time to time and are able to get yourself for a walk or whatever.
Big hug...
Pete
Hi Wee Me
My dads journey started only relatively recently in comparison to yours.. I have followed your story along with everyone else's on here over the last few months and I absolutely have never thought you are 'getting off lightly'. Everyones story is totally different but each one has it similarities... The twists and turns, the unknowns and ultimately the conclusion is something we can all absolutely resonate with... It's total s*** whichever way you look at it, regardless of how long it goes on for. I don't think our personal story will go on for as long as yours has, that doesn't make it any worse or better, its just different and it's all horrible.
You are allowed to feel like it is 'doom and gloom' sometimes, and this is the perfect place to do it. We all know we can't change anything but we are here to listen.
I think I speak for everyone when I say that your support of absolutely everybody on this platform is incredible, and long from now when this rollercoaster journey has ended for me and my family I will think of this amazing community and of you personally.
I really do feel for you and your family. I know my Mum feels the same as you do when it comes to seeing how hard this is on me... But my Mum has always been a superwoman in my eyes, and I am so grateful I have her to lean on, and she has me. I'm sure your daughters think you are superwoman too, and they will be ok.
Keep going, Wee Me xxx
I lost the love of my life to glioblastoma 18 months ago and l felt l lost him many times over a very lengthy illness.l really feel for everyone who finds themselves here.My husband was unusual in that he had a brain tumour as a child which was removed very successfully.He was fit and well and leading life to the full.In 2014 he suffered a mini stroke which showed a meningioma which his neurologist said was a result of radiation treatment as a child.Nothing changed till 2018 when he started to have seizures and reduced mobility in his right side.He was advised to have surgery as the meningioma was changing in size.Surgery took place in 2019 and he was left with some of the tumour and paralysis of his right side.He had 5 months rehabilitation and eventually came out of hospital as we went into lockdown in 2020.It was an incredibly hard time to access help for him and things were difficult to put in place.We had carers 4 times a day and had to adapt are home to create a bedroom downstairs.We just tried to make the best of a very difficult situation.In 2021 he started to have seizures again which had stopped with his previous surgery.An MRI scan then showed he had another tumour but this time a more aggressive glioblastoma in the front temporal lobe.We had discussions with his Neurologist and Oncologist but they both said there was no further treatment.My husband had already made the decision that he wanted no further treatment .He passed away 6 months later and l lost my soul mate and other half.l think l lost him time and time again with all the changes to him as a person but l know he’s at peace now.Thinking of everyone in this group and sending love to you all.
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