Hi, I’m just over two weeks post radical hysterectomy. I’ve had 2 trials without catheter now. I did better at the last one. I could squeeze some urine out but not enough. I don’t have any feeling of needing a wee. I’m being referred to urology now.
I just wondered if anybody else lost their feeling of needing a wee and whether it came back? Or if anyone struggled to wee but it got better? I’d also appreciate hearing of anyones experience of urology and what they can do to help.
I know my surgeon went through the risks before surgery but honestly I had to blank out some of it! He is going to call me this week which will hopefully help but at the moment I’m not sure if this will be a long term issue or something that can improve!
Thanks for readingxxx
Hi May2
I’m sorry to hear you are still struggling and your bladder doesn’t seem to want to get going again-it must be very frustrating for you.
I don’t have the relevant experience to share as my bladder worked fine after my attempt at a hysterectomy, and then it was removed completely during my surgery for recurrence, but I am aware from others that rarely this can be a complication from the rad hyst surgery, and sometimes intermittent self catheterisation has been required going forward-not a permanent catheter.
Let’s see if any other ladies have had this issue and can pop in with some advice for you. It is very recent in your recovery, so I hope that things will improve without further intervention, although the urologists will hopefully have answers short term. Apart from this issue, I hope your recovery is going well!
Sarah xx
Thank you SarahH21 . My recovery is going well overall. I think I forget that the toilet issues are all part of the recovery and it is still early days. I’ve spent another day sorting my constipation issues too so that set me back a bit. I hoped to go out today but ended up stuck in with the toilet! I’m hoping I can get out tomorrow
Thanks for your supportx
Toilet issues are definitely a big part of the recovery process, May2 .The bowel doesn’t like being handled and moved during surgery and it can take time to settle back to normal and get going properly again. But it will. It helps to put your feet on a low stool when you go to the loo-it’s a more natural position to be in, and it saves any straining.
It’s good to hear you are generally recovering well-it’s major surgery with a lot of healing to be done, so make sure to take it easy and look after yourself. You’ll get there!
Sarah xx
Hi May2
It sounds like you're doing better bladder-wise than I did. At 4 weeks post RH I couldn't pee a single drop and had no sensation, despite treatment with bethanechol to try and kickstart my bladder into action. I then started intermittent self catheterisation (ISC) and after a couple weeks could pee about few spoonfuls; however was then advised to have chemo-radiotherapy treatment during which time I relapsed back into total urinary retention. After completion of treatment I once again was able to pee small amounts. My bladder function continued to improve very gradually over the course of a year and possibly beyond. These days I still have a degree of urinary retention but luckily no longer need to use catheters.
It seems I was unusally unlucky with my bladder in terms of post op retention and I've only come across a couple of women who've had worse experiences as a result of an RH.
An important tip should you have to self catheterise: try not to allow your bladder to hold more than 500ml (some say 400ml) otherwise the bladder muscle can get overstretched which can make it harder to regain normal bladder function. My medical team were a bit tardy in telling me this and on occasions my bladder contained up to 800ml! nevertheless I managed to get a reasonable recovery.
Hope all goes well for you.
Hi there, I realise this conversation was a while ago, but I am going through a similar issue with retention after a radical hysterectomy in May. I’ve been catheterised since 8th May and failed a TWOC 3 times. I have an urology appointment at the end of this month and I’m hoping it’s been swelling etc. how did things actually go for you in the end. I’m struggling to find anyone that has had this issue in Hysterectomy support groups too. Thanks x
Hi YJ1
If I'm understanding correctly you have an indwelling catheter? Either with continuous drainage of urine into a bag or a clip/flip flow valve which you control to drain urine when required?
I was told that continuous drainage of urine may cause the bladder to get lazy and reduce the chances of regaining normal function. I was advised that enabling the bladder to go through the normal cycle of emptying and refilling would help recovery as it 'reminds' the detrusor muscle of the bladder wall what it should do.
I had an indwelling catheter with continuous drainage of urine for 2 weeks followed by 2 weeks with a flip flow valve - the latter to enable the bladder to empty and refill. After that I was taught intermittent self catheterisation which I felt was better than than having an indwelling catheter as it not only enabled the emptying/refilling cycle of the bladder but meant I could keep checking if I could pee naturally.
If relevant, I suggest asking your medical team about the above asap. x
Hi, yes I have an indwelling catheter with a flip flow valve. I had a radical hysterectomy in May and was in retention. I’m not sure how common urine retention is after this type of operation but by the end of the month it will be 3 months so I’m hoping that all the swelling will be gone and I can have it removed. I’ve never had the issue of not having the feeling that I need to go it was just I couldn’t go so it’s never been a nerve or brain/bladder issue it’s just an inability to go.
Hi YJ1
Sorry to hear you are having some difficulties with your bladder. After failing my Twoc a few times, I ended up finding out that I could get some wee out by moving in different positions on the toilet and pushing/straining a bit (probably not recommended by medical professionals!). This got things going a bit and I was also shown how to self catheterise. So I did a bit of both. I found at home I could relax certain muscles and spend longer on the toilet and it helped me to go. I would still have lots of retention though and self catheterised for about a week too. Unfortunately all the straining did cause me to have a mild prolapse so I wish I had been a bit more patient!
The good news is that my retention continued to improve and got much better after a year! Things that helped my bladder get going were using vaginal estrogen pessaries and drinking lots of water. Constipation makes it hard for me to wee so I am careful not to be constipated ever now.
I can go to the toilet these days and do a long normal wee and only have to mildly push the last amount out! Hopefully things will improve for you too. The urologist may show you self catherisation which would at least give you the chance to practice weeing at home where you are more relaxed but then you can empty completely with the catheter. I prefered this than the indwelling one. I found the Twocs too stressful to get going!x
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