Late radiotherapy symptoms following surgery

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I had a double lumpectomy in May 21, followed by a mastectomy in June 21, then ‘enhanced’ radiotherapy ie fifteen days-worth in five days.  Subsequently my scar attached to chest wall, so remedial surgery was done in October 22.  For three days all looked good, then my chest began to look red, then purple, spreading up to clavicle and down to abdomen, but stopping in middle.  I was given two lots of antibiotics, but no infection showed in specimen taken.  Eventually in December  a punch biopsy was done.  No malignancy.  It is now suggested this is a late reaction to radiotherapy.  I had pointed out when the first two weeks of antibiotics did not work that the redness was in the area of radiotherapy, but was told impossible as had finished radiotherapy 14 months before.

The redness has retreated back to about three inches around scar line.  I am told it will gradually fade.  No sign of that at present.  Still purple and red.

I am told this is very rare.  Has anyone else by any chance experienced this condition?  Unfortunately, the revision operation has been compromised and my scar has become concave again, so I am rather worse off than I was two months ago.

  • Hi Lortus

    Sorry I haven’t an answer for you but I noticed that you haven’t had any replies so I thought I’d reply to you to move you to the top of the discussion. Hopefully someone will be along shortly with an answer for you.

    Best wishes

    Daisy53

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  • Thanks Daisy!  I was told it is a very rare condition.  Happy New Year.

  • hi    sorry you've had to come and find us

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/radiotherapy/side-effects/

    it appears that this is a side effect of radiotherapy and the NHS does offer some guidance on managing symptoms.

    The only thing I could add to that is up your intake of essential vitamins and minerals via plenty of fruit and veg, don't forget the B vitamins for healing. 

    hugs

    Carolyn

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  • Thanks Carolyn.  I had read the NHS advice, but advice refers to effects 2-3 weeks after RT, not 14 months after and following remedial revision of mastectomy scar.  I know your advice is good advice, and do appreciate it, but posted because I wondered whether anyone had had a similar experience.  I realise it is a slim chance I will find anyone as I have been told it is very rare.  Happy New Year.

  • hi   sorry, I have no experience 

    You could try searching other groups ??  

    Use the magnifying glass search icon at the top and search radiotherapy reaction and actually there are some cases.  Have a read up on those and if the users are still active you could try tagging them with the @ symbol

    Does the scar tissue hurt? Is it sore?  You could try Sudocrem? we use it for everything in this house.

    The other thing I swear is almost magical is pink salt, my son developed a rash the day before we were going on holiday and I soaked him up to his neck in a pink salt bath and the rash vanished, I was much relieved. 

    One thing my team told me was that they felt responsible for fixing things they'd inflicted on me, you could ask for a referral to a dermatologist ??  

    Patience can be a virtue where healing is concerned Shrug

    hugs

    Carolyn

    x

     real life success stories to remind you that people do survive breast cancer

    https://community.macmillan.org.uk/cancer_types/breast-cancer/f/38/t/115457

    Dr Peter Harvey

    https://www.workingwithcancer.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/After-the-treatment-finishes-then-what.pdf

     

  • Thanks again Carolyn.  Your last paragraph is very true!  I will see where I am in another month, and if no better may ask for that referral.  I have a feeling it is associated with the ‘enhanced’ radiotherapy.  I felt a bit of a guinea pig, though I was told they had been working towards this for years, it was certainly brought forward because of the Covid situation.  It is tight and uncomfortable, but not painful.  

  • I just wanted to reassure you about the enhanced Radiotherapy. It came about as a result of a trial called Fast Forward the results of which were published in March 2020 coincidentally along with the start of the pandemic. Covid did accelerate its use in the UK but the trial had been ongoing for many years.

    If you have the 5 fraction regimen the dose you get is less than if you have the 15 treatment one as it is 26Gy/5 or 40Gy/15 but the biological effect is the same.

    Work has been ongoing for many years to try to optimise radiotherapy doses and reduce the amount of appointments patients have. When I started training the normal fraction number was 25 which then was cut to 15.

    Have you tried massaging the scar with vitamin e oil or bio oil. Both of these are supposed to promote healing. Also after my surgery I used some silicone scar dressings which I bought on Amazon. They are washable and reusable. They dramatically improved my the appearance of my scar. 

    I hope you find a solution soon and start to feel better x

  • Hello exraygirl .  Happy New Year, and many thanks for your reply.  Your explanation was the one I was given at the time, but as I knew the treatment was new and the patients were piling up, I did feel a bit of a guinea pig.  I appreciate your assurance from someone who knows (I assume from your pen name).    Until ten days ago, I had been told not to put anything on my chest and not to do any exercises.  Now I have been told I can use Aveeno, and can start exercising.  Not surprisingly two months after surgery the area is very tight, especially in the axilla, but I will persevere, I have done this before after my mastectomy, although I started exercises almost immediately.  I did not know about silicone scar dressings.  I wonder if they are the same as hydrogel dressings.  I was told to try those by a breast care nurse as I left my last appointment at the breast clinic, but with Christmas intervening, I have only got as far as asking my local pharmacy who said they couldn’t get them except in boxes of 250.  I shall try Amazon for your recommendation.  Have you come across anyone in your professional life with my experience?  Thank you again for your help.

  • Happy new year to you too.

    Yes I was a radiotherapy radiographer for 35 years. 
    Radiotherapy does tend to make skin lose its elasticity so anything you can do to feed the skin is good and it’s why you must do your exercises so they you don’t tighten up.

    The hydrogel dressings are usually used on new wounds as they create a moist atmosphere to promote healing. The silicone dressing shouldn’t be used on open wounds but can be applied when the wound is healed.

    I don’t have too much experience with late skin reactions as to be honest we didn’t see patients again after they finished treatment so my knowledge is mostly anecdotal. I’m sorry I can’t be more helpful but keep me posted on how you get on x

  • You have been very helpful exraygirl!  I have ordered the silicone dressings from Amazon, and they should be with me on Tuesday.  Thank you again.