Hello! I was recently diagnosed with a grade 3 IDC, with a treatment plan of a lumpectomy & sentinel lymph node biopsy, followed by radiotherapy. Prior to the op I had an ultrasound and an MRI and these both indicated that the armpits were clear with no sign of any lymph node problems. The MRI did however measure the tumour as more than a centimetre bigger than shown on the ultrasound. After the op I didn't get any update from the medical team on how it had gone but received a call about 10 days later arranging an appointment during which it was explained that some of the margins weren't clear and around 5% of the tumour had not been removed, plus one of three lymph nodes removed had cancer. The new plan is to have chemo for 6 months then surgery to remove the remaining breast tumour and consider removal of all lymph nodes, followed by radiotherapy. The doctor said they didn't expect that the cancer had spread further but would do a CT scan to check, but even if it hasn't spread the follow up surgery would still not take place until after 6 months of chemo.
I'm confused about a few things as the appointment had started late so there was only a short time available to ask questions and see the nurse afterwards, plus there was a lot to take in. Hopefully those of you here with similar experiences may be able to put my mind at rest a bit prior to getting a chance to discuss further with the nurse. This is all new to me, but six months seems a long time to wait for surgery to remove the remaining tumour and lymph nodes. Is it standard to have chemo before further surgery or does it depend? And is it usual for so much of a tumour to remain in place after surgery? When I was first diagnosed I was told it had been caught early, was treatable and Stage1, which was a huge relief, but now it seems that the stage hasn't been decided on yet. I appreciate that treatment plans are subject to change but the period between diagnosis and surgery has all been very quick and things seem to be going from bad to worse, although I am trying to stay as positive as I can.
Hi lalalou. I have a different type of “it” than you. Mine is TNBC. I hope I can put your mind at rest until you get the full details and results and also had a chance to speak to your BCN. I have to have 6 months chemo then surgery then radiotherapy followed by possibly more chemo. That is the plan anyway. It’s just to say that 6 months chemo is quite common. Always subject to change. you should get some good response from this site there is always someone willing to help and advice and support you. I wish you well. Do keep in touch. xx
Thanks for your reassuring reply Nineteen. Having just gone through numerous tests and appointments the thought of having 6 months chemo followed by more surgery is getting me down today, plus am worried that it has spread. I guess you just have to take it one day at a time and hope for the best. Take care xx
Hi LalaLou. I fully understand how you feel. I am not medically trained and can only pass on information I have received for my own diagnosis. I am sorry to hear that you felt rushed at your appointment and did not have time to discuss things in detail. I hear that this should never be the case. It was decided chemo first for me to kill of any stray cells as well as shrinking the initial lump. I had a “clip/marker” put into the lump and that will indicate where the lump was (hopefully gone) then I will still have to have surgery. The clip going in is really not that bad. If I can reassure you in anything I will. This whole thing is just so daunting. As you say one day at a time. So much easier said than done. I have found meditation tapes are good. I would strongly advice you not to google too much if anything at all. Get all your information from your BCN. Also the Macmillan site itself. Thinking of you xx
Hi LalaLou
Six months of. Chemo is not unusual before surgery. Easier said then done I know but try not to worry too much before you have the full picture. Keep yourself busy by doing the things that you love. I find reading and going for walks very beneficial.
Best of luck with your treatments and I am here if you need to talk about what you are going through.
Best wishes
Daisy
Thanks Nineteen. I had a clip/marker inserted during the initial biopsy but don't know whether it was taken out or not during the lumpectomy. How big was your initial lump? Mine was close to 3cm, so that's why I am confused about being initially advised that it was Stage 1 as it seems too large for that. There was a discussion about whether chemo would be given prior to surgery to shrink it, and whether a lumpectomy of mastectomy would be more appropriate, but after an MRI showed it was closer to 4cm the recommendation was lumpectomy. I had no objection to mastectomy if required, I suppose I'd just like to know more about the decision making processes bearing in mind so much of the tumour was left behind after the op (I have been avoiding Google!). I've got an oncology appointment in a couple of weeks so will no doubt find out more then and will be writing a list of questions down in advance. I was only notified of the last appointment the day before, and not told what would be discussed, so it didn't leave much time to think about what to ask.
Hi Lalalou,
Sorry to hear that your treatment plan has changed so drastically. That must be very disappointing, no wonder you’re feeling down. Especially when faced with the prospect of chemo. It’s not easy but is doable (I’ve had 5 out of 6).
I think the CT scan is a precaution (as you said) but I’m sure it will still e a worry for you.
Click on my name to read my profile and treatment journey. The chemo seems to be shrinking my cancer, thankfully.
Hopefully you can get some answers at your appointment or from you BCN.
Bluebell xx
Thanks Bluebell. Just about to head off for my last hair appointment pre-chemo but will take a look at your profile/journey a bit later on xx
Hi lalalou
I have just read your profile journey and this comment, I am not medically trained, but have read lots of informative information, and 3cm does seem to large for stage 1. I would most definitely write down lots of questions for your oncology appointment. I understand treatment plans can change slightly and tweaked to the individual but have all your questions ready and I wish you well
Sharon x
Hi LalaLou. I don’t understand how they work it out but my measurements were that the larger lump 14mm was near another lump of 6mm so the combined area was logged as 37mm. Hopefully you are getting some reassurance from others here. It is all so daunting. Have you a date for your first chemo. Do keep in touch as others will be on the same path and possibly the same stage. It does help with support. Just write down every question or query when you go to your next appointment. Could you take someone with you to take notes. I took my daughters and it was a great help. Not only did I have written questions but they also had theirs too. Yes do keep as busy as possible (stop your mind running off) and will be nice to meet with friends. Have a nice day and be in touch soon. Best wishes. Take care. xx.
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