New diagnosis- caregiver for father

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Good morning everybody, I hope you’re all keeping well…im new here so thought I’d share a little background with my dads situation in hopes to sit alongside some lovely people who are experiencing the same thing as my dad is, I’m his daughter and I’m fighting hard for him in anyway possible. It’s taken me a lot to join this forum including MacMillan itself as it’s facing reality in a way which is scary in itself..
in October this year dad (68) was experiencing macroscopic hematuria on every void which prompted us to seek medical attention, eventually the CT scan revealed a 3cm mass in dads bladder, a few weeks later the procedure TURBT was performed on 17th November and the surgeon said it was a large mass but didn’t disclose exact measurements, complete resection on the discharge summary was noted and new diagnosis of cancer was given.. 4 week to date we’ve still not heard a single thing back from the hospital, our hospital is in Essex at princess Alexandra, I’ve called and called, emailed so many people with no response, this waiting game is painful, i managed to get hold of the ward dad was initially admitted to and they were able to inform me dad was on the list for MDT this Thursday and that we’d hear soon for an appointment to get results (patiently awaiting) yesterday dad received another pre-op questionnaire to fill out as he’s now been placed on a waiting list for surgery…this has confused us all and I can’t figure out what a second surgery would be for but most of all out of a waiting list? What are they planning behind the scenes for him? We still don’t know what’s going nor the stage / grade etc. 
was wondering if anyone is or has been in a similar situation, it would be lovely to shed some light on if you’re willing? 
it’s been a journey and a half already, and I have a feeling it only just started Open mouthDash 


thank you for taking the time to read, all the luck in the world to each and everyone of you. 

  • Hi  and welcome to this friendly and supportive group. Sorry to hear about dad but good to know you are looking out for him. The surgery planned for him sounds like a follow up TURBT. This is common in most cases. Usually not as severe as the first, it is a mopping up procedure with further biopsies to give a more accurate diagnosis. Dad will probably have some scans along the way. When he gets his results meeting, he should be given a stage and grade and a plan of action. Always best to have someone with him at any meeting as you can sometimes get overwhelmed with info. Lots of experiences here so usually someone with answers to any questions. I hope all goes well. Best wishes. 

    Best wishes to All,   rily.

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  • Hello there Rily, 

    Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to me, you’ve honestly given me such comforting support, my mind had automatically gone straight to worse case scenario and this must be something super, super bad. It panicked me to think they need to go in again but understanding what this all means and somewhat standard procedure has given me some relief, I’m so grateful for you…it definitely makes sense too as dads mass was bigger than expected, I can’t bare this waiting much longer especially when the haven’t explained anything since the 17th but not much choice right now. 

    thank you for your wonderful welcome, I’m so happy to be here now Heart

  • Hi indi,

    Welcome to this friendly forum but sorry to hear about your father.

    As Rily said a second TURBT is very common, I had two myself. I really don't know why they don't just say that in the beginning, and it's not good that you've not been kept up to date.

    And to find out like you did must have been shocking for you all.

    It really can be scary at the beginning and really is difficult to comprehend what is going on.

    Loads of experience on this forum, so please fire away with any questions or even if you just want some reassurance or a chat even...

    Take care.

    Trevor 

  • Hi Indigo 

    Just to echo what Rily and Trevor have said you won’t find many people on this forum who have had a single TURBT the absolute minimum most people have is two some have more they also use this procedure for what they call a relook after initial resection of a tumour very early Days for Dad yet and welcome to group it’s the best place to air any concerns or get answers to questions you may have 

    Ste 

  • Hello Indi, welcome to the forum. I hope you find it helpful and supportive , the lovely people on here have steadied me through the past almost 3 years , they have been a godsend.

    I echo what Rily and Trevor have said, I had a 2nd turbt myself. It really would be helpful if they told people that at the start. I remember saying to my consultant “ why are you going in again? has it grown back ?” I was really unnecessarily panicked as it seems it is standard procedure.

    The waiting is really hard , and the “what ifs “ take hold from time to time. Try to keep busy and ask away on the forum, there is always someone to steady you through. We have all been there, we know what its like.

    Your dad is lucky to have a wonderful daughter in his corner . Take care, sending you a hug 

    Much love Angela x

  • Hi Indigogemini,

    I've read everyone else's replies so not much to add except:

    68 isn't very old these days and it seems he's in the system and things are moving onwards as usual. Pity medics haven't given you more info yet but have a look on the Macmillain site as well as the Action on  (or maybe its 'Fight' - can't remember)  Bladder Cancer one and you will find lots of leaflets explaining things. They're all downloadable and easy to read. Otherwise don't Google - these are reputable sites you can trust.

    But please don't jump to what you call worst case scenarios, the medics will tell you what they propose as soon as they have the MDT (multi-disciplinary team meeting).

    And pretty soon you'll find lots happening, appointments set up, etc  once they get started, hospitals generally throw the lot at cancer.

    3.5 years ago, aged 69, I was in your father's position but my cancer had invaded the muscle so I needed my bladder removed. It's been out for 3 years, I have a stoma and bags and it really is no big deal (and hasn't been since just after they removed it).

    People who have had successful cancer treatment, both still with and lacking their bladder are happily living their lives, with their families around them. You father will probably be just the same, like the rest of us on this site.

    Good luck and ask if anything seems strange. Someone here will know about it.

    All the best,

    Latestart

  • Hi indi,

    welcome to the group, but sorry you’re here…the lovely people here have said it all…this journey is a mental challenge as much as a physical one…use this group for anything…even non C stuff…I struggle at times but this lovely lot pick me up dust me down and I’m ready to go again…I also had two TURBTS..I’ve had all results via a phone call even the C diagnosis… is it frustrating waiting for any news, its just the ways things are done…I remember back in Feb 24 when I joined here everyone was saying “be positive “ and try not to worry…I thought they were all mad, but of course they are all right…please try not to stress, it won’t change anything.. I know the NhS gets a bit of stick from time to time but they have been amazing with me…I wish you and your Dad all the very best…and please stay in touch…

    Nigel 

  • What a lovely post Nigel, love that x

    Much love Angela x

  • Angela, my lovely, you know how much I have relied on you guys…there’s never any judgment…and I thank you all for it…

    p.s yes I’m feeling much better now…

  • Hi indigogemini,Welcome to our friendly group.I hope you will find it helpful.I expect they will remove more of the mass during the 2nd TURBT.The waiting is horrible and we know how awful it feels.Once your dad gets his treatment plan it should become easier mentally.Stay with us as we are all here to support you and your dad.Love Jane x