Hello. I’m new here, although I have been reading the posts on the forum from time to time, and following the conversations. First, I would like to thank everyone who has been contrubted to the chat. I have found it very informative and helpful. I haven’t contributed yet, until today, as I’m still feeling very confused and frightened after a TURBT last week. This was under general anesthetic. The surgeon came in just before the operations and asked me “what are you doing here”? I said I was here because I thought I had bladder cancer, (although, I had not actually been told this for certain. Cancer was only suspected and it had not been confirmed). I still thought, maybe it’s all a big mistake. I had undergone a CT Scan two weeks previously – but, again, I knew nothing of the results. The consultant then told me. “Well, you definitely have cancer”! Ithink it was still a rather brutal way to hear the confirmation. He explained what was going to happen during the TURBT operation and then – as he was about to leave the room with his hand on the door handle and one foot into the corridor, asked me if I had any questions. I had absolutely no time to process his comments and he then left the room with me feeling very scared, confused and alone. Oh! And by the way – he said he was handing my TurbT operation over to his Registrar “as I can’t do everything”. I know things are difficult for all the NHS departments now – and I understand that there are processes and procedures that need to be done – but, besides everything else going on with my “bladder cancer”, and everyone on the forum knows what this is like - already, I feel very lost and at the same time I have no confidence in the consultant who is overseeing my care. I await the results of the biopsy taken during the TurBT, but I am fearful that after 3 courses of different antibiotics previously prescribed by my GP over the last six months – to clear up a suspected UTI – the cancer has had time to grow. I now have to wait a further 2/3 weeks for the results of the biopsy.
Hi PoppyFlower and welcome to the group. I am sure you will get lots of support here as you go forward. It is not uncommon for ladies in particular to be fobbed off for weeks with antibiotics. We come across it often. The positive now is you have had your TURBT. Again, we know some consultants do not have great bedside manners. TURBT procedures are like a production line where one patient is wheeled in one after the other and so doctors can be dispassionate, although that shouldn't be an excuse for bad manners. The doctor may not have had your CT results as it takes a couple of weeks to process things. When you have your follow up consultation, you should get more detailed information. Try and have someone with you as you can be overloaded with info. Also ask to be copied in the meeting notes. It is easier to digest things when in black and white. Lots of experience here so feel free to ask anything. Best wishes.
Hi PoppyFlower,I am shocked and saddened that you were told you have cancer in this way.I hope that you will get some support and advice here in this friendly group.It can all be a bit overwhelming processing the diagnosis.Things become clearer once the results come back.We are all here for you,best wishes Jane
Dear PoppyFlower, please try not to worry unduly about the delay caused by your GP's less than satisfactory approach. My husband had had one lot of 'growths' removed in what with hindsight we would call a TURBT. This was many years ago, no one even mentioned cancer and there was no follow up. Only after moving house did getting up at night get bothersome enough to send him to the new GP. She referred him promptly but the choose and book fastest option turned out to be very delayed, so it was still months before he got the first flexi. His bladder was full of growths and he has been treated very successfully since 2018.
Hope this may encourage you, and anyway welcome to the group.
Denby
Thanks for your repy, rily. . The TURBT operation did feel very much like a production line and I know that all the NHS staff are under enormous pressure. I really am very grateful for everything the NHS staff are doing and don’t want to be a “complainer” – I am also very grateful for this forum and for the support it offers. It is priceless. I think I was at a very low ebb when I posted. I will take all the positives I can. Thank you
Dear Jane (winkers60) Thank you for your reply. Its good to know I have this friendly group to talk to. This is all very overwhelming right now. I was probably expecting too much from the Consultant at this time. Thanks again for your good wishes.
Dear Denby – thanks for your reply. I’m sad to hear of your husband’s treatment – but I take heart in hearling about his later successful treatment. Its good to know that there is hope. You have certainly encouraged me. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Hi PoppyFlower,I don’t think you were expecting too much from your consultant.He should have been far more sensitive.I hope you have better treatment moving forward.Love Jane xx
Hello Poppyflower, I just wanted to say that it's completely justifiable to feel that you were told you had cancer in a brutal way. I do think that we expect more from watching medical programmes on TV and seeing the Cancer Research advertisements showing a caring sit down discussion and often a hug with the doctor! My husband also suffered from some very brutal conversations on the phone (due to Covid restrictions on face to face meetings) when he was being diagnosed about two years ago. I did actually complain on his behalf as I was so upset by it and it did have a positive effect in that the consultant had a chat with him about it. They agreed to try and improve their communication and things have been a lot better since then - they have an understanding I think. I think you should have access to a nurse specialist who can act as a middle person between you and the consultant for questions, explaining things better, reassuring you etc - has this been mentioned at all? I must admit my husband didn't have this until he started having BCG treatment with a nurse led urology team. Wishing you all the best for your results. You can also ask for another consultant if you feel you really can't deal with the one you saw - I know it's awkward. We did ask and the hospital were happy to arrange it but in the end my husband decided to stick with the original one as he does think he is very thorough.
Dear Catfan, thank you, and thanks to everyone for your supportive and encouraging words. I now have my results – which is invasive bladder cancer. I have spoken to the nurse, and she has outlined my options for treatment. It all sound so very scary. My gut reaction is to go for bladder removal and stomer but this is very very scary and I wonder what others think about this.
Hello Poppyflower, I can't offer any advice based on my partner's experience but just wanted to send you lots of love and hope you are getting the support and advice you need. I did find that the charity Action on Bladder Cancer has some booklets about life with stoma / neobladder etc which might be worth a look and I think they also have a helpline - just Google their website. You can also search on this site to find previous discussions about this. I also found reading about people who have come through treatment and living good quality lives encouraging and there are plenty on the Action on Bladder cancer website under Patient Stories xx
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