Bcg side effects

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I was diagnosed with several tumours in June 22, have since had 2 x turbt and completed 6 week bcg although last two, side effects were lasting longer. I had the camera check after the first 6 a could see bright red lumps which they said was the bcg working on the tumours and looked good to continue with another 3 weeks bcg. 

I had my treatment Tuesday, and still can't move from my toilet for more than 30 minutes. I'm exhausted after two days of no sleep and painful urination. I also had a couple of instances of incontinence. 

I have T1hg3 and the nurse said many don't complete the course due to side effects. I'm just wondering if anyone stopped the treatment and how that went? My arthritis and fibromyalgia have risen in intensity also.. I look after my 90 year old parents and can't afford to be glued to the loo for more than 24 hours.. I drink loads of water to flush but makes no difference for the pain or frequency. Last time I could at least make it 2 hours before needing the loo.. Any suggestions or info appreciated 

  • Hi KB, like you I had T1hg3 tumours removed in Dec 21 with 6+3 BCG installations. The effects of BCG on the bladder making you want to pee regularly is exhausting but I found that taking ibuprofen helped me to deal with the pain and irritated bladder but the treatment can be different for everyone. After a few days the symptoms subsided for me getting me to 90-120 mins between visits to the toilet, a bottle or bush if I ventured out (fortunately I live near to the countryside), planning your journey around convenience stops becomes the norm. At my inspection check in September I was told that I'd be getting a further 3+3 however these were cancelled due to a global shortage of BCG which could be why you're being given the "many don't complete the course due to side effects". Yesterday I had my quarterly inspection which is 6 months after my last BCG treatment and I'm pleased to say that I'm still clear of cancer, so while I can go through the night without peeing, going out into cold weather does make me feel like I need to go to the loo more often. I hope you feel better soon.
    Stuart   

    Take care and look after yourself

    Stu 

  • Was considering cancelling further bcgs due to pain etc it's quite intense. Will try ibuprofen for next one. Thanks x

  • Hello K.B, my clinic doctor did say that BCG does have the effect of shrinking the bladder. I had biopsies taken last July and the surgeon managed to stretch it so I can hold more liquid. It did improve but I do have bouts of frequency, more to do with the amount of water I consume.

    My BCG was halted after 14 instillations because it inflamed my bladder. I am currently cancer free, due for a cystoscopy end of this month. It has caused me pain and discomfort long term but of course it affects some patients more than others. I'm one of the unlucky one's in that respect but thankful it does seem to have done what it's supposed to do.

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    FormerMember in reply to Jacaranda07

    I am most of the way through 27 BCG treatments & have had 2 operations plus multiple camera jobs. Since I was diagnosed I have become registered disabled and have found a number of side effects, feeling washed out, sore knees, joints & other difficulties plus various pains with the treatment process. In my case none of which prevent my treatment.

    From what I have read there is quite a high rate of people not being able to complete their treatment for various side effects & that some other recourses will be made available.

  • You have done really well to complete 27 instillations. I agree with you, when I first realised how much the BCG has bad after effects I got the impression that I was an odd one out. But after hearing people's stories on forums such as this I think the problem is a lot wider than I'm led to believe. Of course I'm not seeing it as a conspiracy but when I raise my concerns I get told there is no silver bullet to stop the pain or discomfort. A little help in pain control would help, all I'm told is that it will clear up on its own, if that's so it's taking a very long time! I do take paracetamol and perhaps Ibuprofen, neither touch the sides. Very occasionally I also take a cocodamol and that can help. I am due another cystoscopy at the end of the month and will of course see what the outcome of that will be.